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    NorCal Sheriff man-ing up!

    Hope this is in the right forum. Cool read!
    This is in Cali but if this sort of effort could spread from coast to coast it would make a hell of a statement for common sense laws.
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    This is a great article from the Plumas County News:

    Sheriff refuses to enforce federal regulations

    M. Kate West
    Chester Editor
    2/15/2011

    “There was a good reason why the Plumas County Sheriff’s Office had a large presence at the Almanor Basin Tea Party Patriots meeting,” Sheriff Greg Hagwood said Feb. 10.

    He said he and his administration, along with the area patrol sergeant Dean Canalia and Chester deputies Ian James and Chris Herrbach, were there to “demonstrate first and foremost their awareness of what the United States Forest Service was trying to inflict on residents and tourists alike with restricting access to public lands.”

    “Secondly, I want every citizen to know we do not support, endorse nor will we inflict this one-vehicle limit nonsense on them,” Hagwood said.

    “Bottom line, we are not going to be agents of the federal government in creating a new class of criminals who are doing nothing more then accessing what are public lands.”

    —Greg Hagwood, Plumas County Sheriff

    The referenced one-vehicle limit is a rule being proposed that would limit persons pulling trailers or gathering firewood to being able to only move their vehicle off the roadway a distance equal to the measured length of their personal vehicle(s).

    He then spoke about all the laws, rules and regulations the USFS already has in place to protect the forest.

    “I will be damned if my staff will start inflicting these latest federal mandates on law-abiding citizens who are doing nothing more then enjoying what should continue to be recognized as public lands,” Hagwood said.

    He also talked about road access for snowmobile, off-highway vehicle and woodcutting use.

    “I see this as the beginning of an effort to restrict and inhibit access to public lands. Just because those uses are not targeted today does not mean they won’t be tomorrow,” he said. “At some point this nonsense has got to stop.”

    He said there are already numerous laws that address resource damage and irresponsible behavior on pubic lands and in the forest.

    “There are ample laws to address those issues now. The Plumas County Sheriff’s Office will not be citing, arresting, seizing vehicles of residents who have driven 30 yards off the roadway to collect firewood,” he said.

    According to the proposed rule, persons who drive off the roadway will be in violation of the USFS Travel Management Plan and subject to punitive measures.

    “No one supports damages to resources or the environment but we have to get to a point where political correctness takes a back seat to common sense,” Hagwood said.

    “I was elected to protect the rights of our citizens and I take this duty seriously. I believe my stand (is) in keeping with the general sentiment of the people of Plumas County and the employees of the Plumas County Sheriff’s Office.

    “It’s a shame that we have come to recognize the seriousness this late in the game — better late then never. People are beginning to recognize the infringement on their liberties and I applaud those who are waking up and taking action.”

    As for his stand on the issue, Hagwood said, “I think it’s essential people in Plumas County understand that as important as enforcing laws are, of equal importance is our job to ensure people’s liberties and freedoms.”

    Looking at others in attendance at the Almanor Basin Tea Party Patriots meeting Feb. 8, it was obvious Hagwood is not alone in his sentiments.

    Present from Lassen County were Sheriff Dean Growden and county supervisors Bob Pyle and Larry Wosick. Sheriff John Evans traveled over from Sierra County.

    Plumas County supervisors Sherrie Thrall and Terry Swofford also attended the meeting.

    Moving up to the state and national level: representatives were in the audience from the offices of Assemblyman Dan Logue and Congressmen Wally Herger and Tom McClintock.

    The meeting was live streamed with a file to go to archive on the Tea Party website.

    It was anticipated that the following government offices were viewing the meeting from outside locations: Congressman Dan Lundgren and the board of supervisors from Plumas, Lassen, Butte, Modoc, Sierra and Tehama counties.
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    Re: NorCal Sheriff man-ing up!

    That guy has his head on straight. Might get him into trouble but he can cite Calif disobeying Fed law on Pot.
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    Re: NorCal Sheriff man-ing up!

    Thought this would get more replies since its in cali?....oh well
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    Re: NorCal Sheriff man-ing up!

    good for him i hope more follow .

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    Don't hope....send it to your County Sheriff. Then send it to your Start Assembly Members, County Supervisors, and Congress Critters.

    It's up to us to let them know.

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    Re: NorCal Sheriff man-ing up!

    if the feds can ignore good laws (imo) why cant we ignore BS laws. good post

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    Here is another one who is threatening to take the Feds to task - by arresting them??? Baaaaalsy!!!

    http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_17710322

    CORTEZ — Montezuma County Sheriff Dennis Spruell is waiting for his conscience to tell him: Should he start handing out tickets this week to U.S. Forest Service agents who are closing backcountry roads? Should he cut locks on gates that shut off access to public lands?

    The fact that a county sheriff is considering such actions against the federal government is a good indication that more than a run-of-the-mill dustup over road and trail closures on public lands is erupting in the far southwest corner of the state.

    Spruell and others are upset about road closures in the San Juan National Forest. But their ire over not being able to use certain trails is overshadowed by a broader issue. They cite various interpretations of the Constitution to argue that the federal government shouldn't have jurisdiction over forest lands in the first place and that the Forest Service is not a legitimate agency.

    "When I ran for office the No. 1 question I was asked was 'what are you going to do about the encroachment of the federal government?' The people here have just had enough. They are really tired of the federal government telling them what to do," said Spruell, who sits in his office beneath a sign reading, "People Protected by Pit Bull Spruell." The sign was given to him by members of the conservative 9-12 Patriots group.

    In recent weeks, protesters have marched on the local Forest Service and BLM office located between Cortez and Dolores, calling Forest Service officials "government pukes." Armed detractors of the federal agencies have set up a large display of signs near the office denouncing forest regulations and drawing attention with a stuffed, rifle-toting bear dangling from a rope. More than 170 residents last week jammed into a talk by two Utahns who claim in three self-published books that the federal government has far exceeded its original mission spelled out in the Constitution.

    The idea that federal land should be turned over to the states or the counties has gained traction with everyone from businessmen who have little direct stake in the issue to the three dozen or so folks who spend four hours every other Saturday sitting through a Constitution class led by Minuteman Mike Gaddy. Gaddy has a theory that the Forest Service or BLM might be restricting access to lands because the federal government has promised mineral rights to the Chinese in lieu of paying off the U.S. debt owed to that nation.

    The outcry and resulting conspiracy theories is the result of three plans put forward by the Forest Service to implement travel management plans on three sections of the forest as required by a 2005 federal mandate. The intersection of those plans are what Steve Beverlin, Dolores Public Lands Office manager, calls "a perfect storm" for controversy. Beverlin knows. He was just transferred from his job late last week amid of all the controversy.

    He explained that at the same time workers began closing and reclaiming roads on two of the areas, a plan was publicized that called for the closure of 155 miles of an estimated 700 miles of unauthorized motorized routes in the Boggy Glade area near Dolores.

    Boggy Glade is a popular high-country area where the elderly, the disabled and hunters have long used the trails that now branch out across the map of the area like a bad case of varicose veins. Many of those slated for closure were made by ATVs veering off established trails. Some were created for logging or mining decades ago and never closed until now.

    Many of those protesting the closures cite an 1866 law they refer to as RS 2477, which they argue gives local governments authority over roadways. The law was designed to promote settlement of the west by granting rights of way to people who wanted to build roads across public lands. It was repealed in 1976, but already-established rights of way were allowed to continue.

    The term RS 2477 is commonly bandied about here in coffee shops and government offices. There are many differing ideas about exactly what it means, but the bottom line is that its adherents think the law can be used to take some roads and trails from federal jurisdiction and put them in the hands of counties.

    "The misinformation about this is just daunting," said Veronica "Ronni" Egan, national director of the Great Old Broads for Wilderness and a resident of nearby Mancos. Her organization is going to begin running full-page ads in local papers soon to try to dispel some of what they believe is wrong information about what's happening in their forest.

    Doug Maxwell doesn't want to hear any of that.

    "The Forest Service has no right to enforce any laws. They can't enforce laws unless they are deputized by the county sheriff," said Maxwell, a retiree who has been sitting down the road from the public lands office outside Dolores since mid-January with anti-Forest Service signs like, "Road Closures = a Step Toward Tyranny."

    Jerry Martin, sheriff of Dolores County for 21 years, said he fears that all this rhetoric coupled with rampant rumors could lead to something as horrific as the incident in 1998 when three angry anti-government misfits shot their way through the Four Corners, killing one deputy, wounding three others and leading 500 officers on a massive, extended manhunt.

    "We've had heated problems over grazing in the past and disputes over logging. But I've never seen anything of this magnitude," Martin said.

    Spruell has been criticized by some residents as contributing to the unrest by aligning himself with the anti-federal-government crowd and by making threats to arrest or ticket Forest Service workers.

    The sheriff said he is simply following his conscience. He said that will help him decide what to do when he encounters workers closing roads he doesn't think should be closed or reclaiming roads by first ripping them up with heavy machinery. He has already told his deputies not to cite citizens who are violating federal regulations he doesn't believe are legitimate, such as camping too far off the road in a restricted area.

    "I'm not a radical," he said. "But when I see something I think is wrong, it's my responsibility to do something."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vtr_Racing View Post
    That guy has his head on straight. Might get him into trouble but he can cite Calif disobeying Fed law on Pot.
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    Every time you turn around, more liberties and freedoms are being usurped by fools and frauds protecting us from ourselves. Time to fight back at every opportunity. Good for him!
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