How many green stickers are sold each year in CA?

[Jerry Zaiden]

Does anyone know the answer to this or is it on a public website?

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[racetrash]

At our house, it's 4 green stickers....

[Wayne_Nosala]

Lots of interesting data in this document, a couple of pages I grabbed with data shown attached

It shows most of our "trust" Fund...the bulk of it comes from fuel tax

Answer to your question Jerry, about 1.1 million as of 2009

Wayne

http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/pages/1140/f...0final-web.pdf

[partybarge_pilot]

So there collecting roughly 85Mil a year and we can't get dumpsters at Glamis? What a joke.

[Jerry Zaiden]

Thank you Wayne...

Now the point I want to make is just think if we as off-road people united and asked to pay $200 a year for a green sticker. BUT they have to keep land open! They would actually have no choice! Why?

Look at it like this...

Right now green stickers are 52 for a two year period that is $26 per year at 1.1 mil sold ever year. $28,600,000

Now charge $200 per year and $300 for new registration. This would bring in over $300,000,000 a year just from green stickers alone!

Now I know this is crazy and way to much but just think what kind of impact it would have on what becomes important to our rule makers/leaders. I think in the long run this will get us more than what we want and in the end make our industry better and grow our sport/recreation.

[Travisfab]

$200 a year for a 1983 Honda 250R? That's half the value of the bike!!!

[Jerry Zaiden]

$200 a year for a 1983 Honda 250R? That's half the value of the bike!!!

If we don't make an impact then we wont have anywhere to use our toys. The only was we will win is to add to the pockets of the state.

[Bro_Gill]

Jerry- The problem is this- The politicians in Sac will just use the money to buy more land to lock up and not let us use as they have been doing with the current fund. If you think the green sticker fund will ever change the minds of the current folks in Sac, you are mistaken. The green groups still GIVE way more money to politicians than OHVers do. Making the green sticker fund bigger doesn't change that. Take that extra 350 bucks every 2 years and give it to a politician who wants to protect your rights to recreate on public land. The answer is to oust the current bought and paid for Dems and put folks with more moderate views in office. Almost 20% of land in the western states is owned by the Gov't. How much do you think is open to OHV use? Right now, they are taking that less than 1% away.

[Travisfab]

If we don't make an impact then we wont have anywhere to use our toys. The only was we will win is to add to the pockets of the state.

I'm all about making an impact, I'll pay 200%, even 300% more, but 800% more? I just think $600 a year to keep 3 bikes in the dirt, is too much for a middle income family.

[inyonative]

Seems incredible doesn't it, that all of that apparently empty desert belongs to someone or some agency with a mandate to manage it?

The public lands belong to all of us--now and into the future--all Americans until there is no America.

just food for thought.