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Discussion in 'Shop - Suspension & Steering' started by RRacing, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. RRacing

    RRacing Member

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    I wanted to get some opinions on what shock oil you all are using. I'm running Bilsteins 2.5" triple bypass on my Jeepspeed, and was told by Bilstein to run 5 to 7 weight shock or hydraulic oil with a minimum temp of 300 degrees. Looked online and saw mostly Fork oil when I searched for it. I have seen a lot of people say that synthetic ATF will work just as well. What do you think? Please include specific brand info. Thanks.
     
  2. BRINGTHERUCKUS

    BRINGTHERUCKUS Nimrod de PMC

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    ATF will "work" but you dont want to use it... Give Kris Hernandez a call at Shock Seals (actually i cant find his number so go to shockseals.com and it has all the info youll need if not email him) he'll get you pointed the right way, . FOA makes some cheaper shock oil but i dont think youd want it in a bilstein.
     
  3. baja619

    baja619 Well-Known Member

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    Lucas Oil is hearing great reports from the field with their shock oils. Desert Racers, Short course to industrial. They have 2.5wt all the way up to 20wt; All purpose formulated Shock Oils.
     
  4. Ramsey_ElWardani

    Ramsey_ElWardani Ironman

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    I have 4 gals of Bilstein oil that you can have in El Cajon, CA.
     
  5. RRacing

    RRacing Member

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    Sounds good. Can you cover the shipping to AZ.;) What would it cost to ship to Mesa, AZ?
     
  6. Ramsey_ElWardani

    Ramsey_ElWardani Ironman

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    I wouldn't want to hassle with shipping - someone is always driving back and forth from SD to Phoenix.
     
  7. philofab

    philofab Powered by Optima

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    I buy Ultra Extreme or Extreme shock oil from F&L / Amber Racing Services.
     
  8. RRacing

    RRacing Member

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    Does anybody know if there is a F&L distributor here is the phoenix area?
     
  9. philofab

    philofab Powered by Optima

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    In Phoenix you could get shock oil from SDHQ.
     
  10. kdm73091

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    Dte 11m oil is the sht ive heard.
     
  11. cosmo

    cosmo Super Moderator

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    Thru F&L you can order a 5 gallon can also.
     
  12. Ol' Curmudgeon

    Ol' Curmudgeon RDC's resident crackpot

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  13. Kritter

    Kritter Krittro Campbell

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    Pick the weight of oil you want then get the one with the highest viscosity index you can afford.

    Maxima makes great oil used in some of the fastest TT's out there
    F&L makes Fox oil
    King uses Shell oil
    SAW uses semi syn Torco oil

    A podium jeepspeed with 2.5" shocks will run 300-350F assuming its not overweight. Overweight you can be pushing 400F.

    Dont use ATF. Yes it works, not if you want to be competitive in that class. Next to prep, shocks are everything in that class. Rebuild them every race with fresh seals and oil. Ive worked with the fastest jeepspeeds out there and know what it takes to win.

    Shoot me an email [email protected] if you want more specifics. If you talk to Bilstein Joel, he will point you to me for seal kits if he cant take care of you right away.
     
  14. PNW078

    PNW078 New Member

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    Use oil designed for shocks, not fork oil. Shock oil is designed for higher heats in an airless environment. Forks operate at lower temperatures with air present and have anti foaming additives. You can cook fork oil in shocks. Maxima does make an excellent shock oil in 3, 7 and 10wt. Most motorcycle shops stock it and can order pails. Other motorcycle brands also offer good shock oils, I think Bel Ray goes up to 20wt. Also look for Spectro, Torco, also excellent products.
     
  15. Sparky

    Sparky Active Member

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    Our Bilstein's don't get anywhere near that hot. And we podium. They used to get that hot until Joel worked his magic on them. We use whatever oil Bilstein puts in them.
     
  16. Kritter

    Kritter Krittro Campbell

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    How are you verifying temp?

    Magic doesnt defy physics.

    Helgeson, Hartman, Coan Wrangler, Wacker, Coan Cherokee(3" shocks) , Griffith, Lafortune(3" shocks), etc...run/ran those temps.
     
  17. Sparky

    Sparky Active Member

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    I don't think any of them ran Bilsteins. The discussion is regarding oil for Bilstein, not Kings. We run Bilstein and I know what temps they run. Just because ^^^their shocks got that hot does not mean that *all* shocks get that hot.

    Temp indicators and with a gun.
     
  18. cosmo

    cosmo Super Moderator

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    What oil are you using?
     
  19. Sparky

    Sparky Active Member

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    Some spooky voodoo magic stuff. Honestly I don't know exactly what it is.
     
  20. philofab

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    Bilstein uses F&L Ultra Extreme shock oil.
     

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