SNORE Midnight Special appeal status and Race Safety Management Plan

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  1. pdailey

    pdailey #billsson

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    To: ALL SNORE MEMBERS, RACERS AND VOLUNTEERS

    Date: June 8, 2011

    Re: Status of the SNORE permitting process, appeals decision and the Midnight Special


    I would like to thank everyone for their patience, input and support while SNORE was working their way through the process of being denied a permit and finding the solution to correct the problem. I know there were a lot of people who wanted information immediately and all the while we wanted to answer the questions, we had to process the information through the correct channels and then find the solution. Any information that would have been offered before this time would have just been speculation.

    Not to re-hash the allegations, which some were probably cause for concern and some probably over exaggerated, but all in all they needed to be addressed before we could move forward. The appeal has been returned and in layman’s terms, BLM has six points of correction and modification on how SNORE conducts business that need to be addressed and then SNORE will be off probation and allowed to start permitting races again. At this point we are in open dialogue with Nevada BLM and hope to have all these issues corrected within the next 30 to 45 days. The main sticking point and especially after the tragic August accident is for SNORE to provide a comprehensive overall boilerplate safety plan that will be instituted at all SNORE races and just modified to fit each event. Most of this plan would involve separating SNORE volunteers from wearing two hats or let’s say volunteering as a Pit Captain and pitting for a race vehicle. Any area of the race that needs to be staffed in regards to safety, those persons need to be solely dedicated to that task at hand for the full duration of the race with no responsibilities to any other racer, pit crew or team. At the end of this brief I will attach a draft of the proposed Race Safety Management Plan that was provided to BLM yesterday and this is the starting point for which we will find closure in the next few days. SNORE and the BLM are open to public comment on this forum from the racers and how to improve and modify the plan to not only ensure everyone safety, but also keep the integrity of our sport alive in the future. The one thing we need help from the racers, retrievals and teams directly on is how to limit the disturbing of additional vegetation, we can double all the road crossings, we can double all the flaggers, we can double all the porta potties, but we can’t put a concrete jersey barrier around the course. That effort to maintain our sport must require help from the racers, retrievals and teams who need to be aware that some times we are our own worst enemies.

    Now, for the status of the Midnight Special. After meeting with BLM yesterday and coming to a common agreement on what needs to happen in the next 45 days, there will be no time left after that and July 30th to process a permit to run on public lands. At last night’s Board of Directors meeting it was agreed that a group of us would be meeting this Saturday to recon a 45 mile loop at the Moapa Indian Reservation 20 miles North of Las Vegas to hold the race all on private property for this race only. We estimate that only about 15% of the loop would have to use part of the MINT course. There will be a lot of new course that has never been raced before and once we feel comfortable that it is a viable location and all race logistics are worked out we will start providing information regarding the race as fast as we can generate it. We apologize for possibly having racers make changes to their plans, rooms, etc. but we are working as fast as we can and will try to post info ASAP. We are racing on July 30th, so point those lights, grease the CV’s and get on the pre-entry list please.

    Now, for the Ridgecrest race. After meeting with BLM, they stated that California Inyo County would be notified of the temporary suspension of SNORE permits in Nevada, but that should in no way affect the processing of the Ridgecrest permit or race. It was also stated that once the new proposed safety management plan is approved along with the other minor adjustments, there should be no reason by August or September that we are fully permitting the RATR race for December and then onto BAP, MINT and so on and SNORE will be fully back on track with our permit processing for 2012.

    Again, BLM is fully aware of the importance of our sport and how much this avenue of recreation means not only to our families and friends, but also the economic impact to the business’s and vendors who support and profit from our use of public lands. In a nutshell we have lost the privilege to permit the Midnight race at Primm and if we do our due diligence to correct the minor problems, this whole suspension should end there. Again, thanks for your patience, dedication and support of SNORE. Racers for racers. If you have a 90% chance that you will be racing the Midnight Special with Fireworks and on a new course, please pre-enter so we can start working on all the logistics and pre-race planning every great event requires.

    PROPOSED SNORE SAFETY MANAGEMENT PLAN

    We are pleased to present this proposal for race management services before, during and after SNORE sanctioned events. It is the intent of this proposal to cover labor and equipment in the areas of course marking, race safety operations including Safety Officer, BLM Liaison, Pit Captains, Road Crossing Monitors, Fluid Containment Monitors and course monitoring of all safety related stipulations beginning July 1, 2011. The goal of providing these services is to remove the responsibility of meeting BLM stipulations and safety requirements from SNORE volunteers who will now only be focused on checkpoints and retrievals. All safety and stipulation related personnel assigned to an event will be available two weeks prior to the race to perform duties as detailed in this proposal. All Safety Management personnel must have an extensive background in off-road racing and will be fully briefed on any stipulations as they pertain to each specific event. All personnel will not be allowed to participate in the event if they are assigned duties. They may not enter the race, pit for someone entered in the race or have any other involvement other than performing the scope of work assigned. All personnel shall be provided with appropriate equipment to ensure constant communication is maintained between the staff liaison and the BLM. All staff shall be provided with a full copy of the approved race permit including all stipulations and will monitor for adherence during the full duration of the race. We shall provide an oil/trans fluid dump tank, a water/coolant dump tank and an EPA-approved container for contaminated soil removal. It will be located in the main pit, the exact location will be announced at the mandatory drivers meeting

    SCOPE OF WORK:

    PRE-RACE:

    · During BLM permit processing, a safety and management team will be established and that team will begin developing plans for course marking, pit marking, safety setbacks and location of signage.

    · Upon BLM permit approval, safety staff shall mark the course for course direction, course safety, pit access, pit locations, road crossings and pit pass monitor locations. If necessary, staff shall survey and mark the Main Pit for pit space coordination.

    · Safety management staff shall provide personnel to meet with a BLM representative to ensure that the race course layout is safe, well defined and all pre-race stipulations have been met. During this approval process, personnel will be on site and able to respond immediately to any and all issues that may require modification or implementation.

    · Upon BLM race course approval, safety management staff shall provide personnel during the week preceding the race to monitor and repair the race course and markings as a result of inclement weather or vandalism.

    · Upon Main Pit layout approval, safety management staff will coordinate the delivery and location of the EPA approved fluid dump tanks.


    RACE DAY:

    · Safety management staff shall be on site a minimum of two hours prior to the race start time for check in and radio check as well as a pre-race briefing with all staff and BLM personnel.

    · Safety management staff shall provide a member to accompany the BLM recreation planner assigned to the race as a sole liaison between the Race Director of SNORE and the BLM. The staff liaison will be required to carry video equipment along with keeping a time recorded journal of all activities and events during the full duration of the race.

    · Safety management staff shall provide two members at each pit location to monitor fluid containment, pit rule infractions, safety setbacks and observance of all safety rules by all race team members. Any and all infractions will be reported directly to the Race Director including the time of infraction, team associated with the infractions and outcome of the incident. All staff members will be required to carry video equipment for recording of all pit stops, any incident and for documentation purposes.

    · Safety management staff shall provide two members at each road crossing for the full duration of the race and to monitor and ensure that all race stipulations are met and safety of the general public is maintained.

    · Safety management staff shall provide two members at each pit entrance to monitor and check all pit passes and pit access credentials for the full duration of the race.

    · Safety management staff shall provide two members to monitor each road closures and restrict any and all access to unauthorized areas for the full duration of the race.

    · Safety management staff shall provide three to five roving members to ensure all road crossing signage, pit signage, safety setbacks, pit pass monitors, road crossing monitors retrievals and checkpoints are in place prior to the start of the race. During the remainder of the race these staff members will be available to handle any issues that may arise during the full length of the race along with monitoring the race from multiple locations for course cutting, rules infractions, repairs involving fluid containment, media stipulation infractions and off course degradation by race vehicles.


    RACE WRAP-UP:

    · Upon completion of the race, Safety management staff will coordinate and verify the removal of EPA approved dump tanks by waste management company and all fluids collected are disposed of or recycled in a lawful manner. A copy of the disposal receipt will be kept on file for 3 months.



    Respectfully Submitted,



    Robert Gross – Race Director - SNORE
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  2. JRod

    JRod _WRP_

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    WoW!

    Kudos to SNORE for busting their asses to work with the BLM to present such a comprehensive plan. If racing in the US means more work, then as racers/crews we need to step up and support the effort to keep racing alive. Although the outcome (No midnight race in Primm) is not what many of us hoped for, clearly SNORE and BLM worked very hard to ensure that racing has the potential to continue in Nevada and in turn the US.

    Now the responsibility falls to the teams, participants, and media to follow the rules, step up and fill the needed positions.

    From reading the BLM report and this plan of action, I am of the opinion that this is kind of a last chance to get our crap together and really show we care about our sport..... While the rules/regulations will be much tighter and strictly enforced, this is the hand we have been dealt, so it is up to us to be the best stewards of our sport for future generations.

    Again, thank you to BLM and SNORE for all their hard work.
  3. LBug1

    LBug1 Member

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    Wow, that sure is some kinda litature pat. With that said it sounds like the blm and snore are back on the same page! glad that all this legality is being ironed out... THANK YOUS GO OUT TO ALL THE HARD WORKN STAFF THAT DO ALL THE UNFUN WORK THAT KEEPS THE SPORT ALIVE.
  4. Byrdracing

    Byrdracing Member

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    Awesome!!! Very professional and pro-active. Can't wait for Ridgecrest!!!
  5. oldman dirt

    oldman dirt Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the update Pat......................
  6. Thompson8033

    Thompson8033 New Member

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    its about time
  7. NIKAL

    NIKAL Well-Known Member

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    So is this Safety Management Plan the only thing the BLM is currently requesting in order for SNORE to get their permit back? From looking at the BLM report and the photo's, they seemed very concerned with the actual course and the "questionable" widening of the course and other tire tracks in the area. What has been SNORE's rebuttal regarding the claims that the course was widened, non permitted trails were used damaging vegetation and the random tire tracks found crossing the vegetation? To me that part of the BLM complaint was more of a "Witch Hunt" then actual cause for revoking SNORE's future permits.

    Will the BLM be more understanding regarding the race course if SNORE's Safety Plan is is followed? Because even in the new Safety Plan you have Course Rovers and Course Retrievals, and those people will need access to the course and driving on the actual course cant be a safe answer to the problem.
  8. pdailey

    pdailey #billsson

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    Sorry we didn't work fast enough for you. I mean after all, we are just volunteers who actually work day jobs and none of the SNORE people get paid for their hard work. Do us all a favor, sell your truck and buy a boat. Just go away please. Thanks.
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  9. B-Dub 1020

    B-Dub 1020 Well-Known Member

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    About time for what you smart ash sob, if you were here I'd oh you worthless pos
  10. B-Dub 1020

    B-Dub 1020 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for my childish response but some have no idea what it takes to race off road these days.
  11. DesertGuy1

    DesertGuy1 Active Member

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    Looking at your safety management plan, don't most promoters have a standard IAP (Incident Action Plan) and adjust the plans within for each race's specific needs? IAP's are pretty much a standard for scheduled/emergent events and incidents. Seems having such a plan in place and the required briefings would remedy much of the concerns, both from management and participants alike.
  12. bob380sx

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    IMO SNORE puts on safe races. Safer than the tragic race in CA by 10x. I don't see this as the big problem.
    Now this is a big problem. Clearly you cant do a retrieval and have the retrieval truck and race cars on the same spot of the track at the same time someone has to go off the track. And you can not pass or pull your blue light special out of the way of a TT with out going of the track. Its just not possible to run a desert race and not disturb some vegetation or widen the track. IT CANT HAPPEN! Even if you run a race like a timed rally there will be corners blown and bugs swing axle swapping off the track. trying to comply with this is just being set up to fail. I looked at the pix and it all looked normal to me. I truly cant see getting away for it. A reasonable amount of distribution needs to be allowed. If there is no way to allow for it SNORE is doomed.
  13. pdailey

    pdailey #billsson

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    Not just SNORE, but US racing in general
  14. dan200

    dan200 #BSF200

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    This forum, its members, and the people who work diligently to keep off road racing alive for everyone deserve gratitude instead of crappy comments like yours. For the most part we are all one big family and your comments of late are making you that a-hole uncle nobody likes.

    SNORE and its volunteers you have my (and everyone besides Thompson8033) sincerest gratitude...
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  15. LBug1

    LBug1 Member

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    lololololol kac...cough cough. Wow talk about stikn your foot in your mouth. Enjoy...
  16. Bryan Racing

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    A Huge THANK YOU to Snore and all those that have/are ironing out the issues in a positive, mature, manner.Some people just don't get it/never will, therefore the rest of us have to cover their shortfall's,but that's life,we will move on and conduct ourselve's properly and they will continue to exhibit their ignorance,hopefully in a different arena so we may continue to do what we all love to do.
  17. bob380sx

    bob380sx Member

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    Sadly your right.
    What is BLMs stand on this? Is there any give at all from that side? They have to know as well as we do that its an impossible.
  18. Zac Reish

    Zac Reish Well-Known Member

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    He may not have meant the "its about time" remark the way you guys are interpreting. I hope not anyways. He could have meant it as the blm and desert racing orgs may finally be seeing eye to eye? Yay, lets race "its about time". LOL.
  19. Dave Cole 4454

    Dave Cole 4454 Member

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    Pat, we haven't met, but I've been down the same path you are going down with King of the Hammers. If there is anything I can do, in any way, to help, please let me know. We built out a fairly detailed SOP and also built out a Incident Report Model which BLM seemed to like. I'd be happy to share any documentation or do anything to assist. Keep up the good work.

    Dave
    Hammerking Productions
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  20. snoreracer

    snoreracer Well-Known Member

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    Bobby it's the fish and wildlife service, because the tortoise is listed as threatened no habitat can be disturbed .

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