2018 Southern Az Desert Racing

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2018 Schedule

Sandstorm 300 Feb 23-24

Tequila 150 May 18-19

Point to Point Oct 5-6

Cholla 250 Dec 1-2

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Schedule just announced at last Saturdays race. Website should be updated this week.
 

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2018 Schedule

Sandstorm 300 Feb 23-24

Tequila 150 May 18-19

Point to Point Oct 5-6

Cholla 250 Nov 30 - Dec 1
 

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First race of the 2018 season is right around the corner. Visit www.racesadr.com or connect via FACEBOOK.

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When first conceived, Southern Az Desert Racing was going to take on some of the older race courses in Az plus add some new ones. Unfortunately, the accident in Ca. gave the Az BLM just the ammo they needed to halt new permits. Currently only one race course from the past still exists. Wickenburg is still being raced, however, it is a much shortened course and uses a GP finish to keep the event on a timetable. SADR ventured south and worked with the governing bodies in Sonora to bring racing back to the area. Races remind participants of baja and the beachfront town of Puerto Penasco gives it a San Felipe type feel.
 

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Isn't it ironic that they still race in the Mojave Desert, the site of the accident, but no racing in AZ for SADR and no racing in Plaster City. Too bad we can't impeach the bad BLM bosses that have their own agenda.
 
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I had small dealings with the AZ BLM helping put on some moto races with AMRA and they were a pain in the azz at times and we were just racing bikes, no quads or cars/trucks.
 

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Another promoter has tried to get a truck and buggy series started. Unfortunately, the courses are very short laps, offer little or no passing and mostly on private land. Long desert courses in Az are a thing of the past with the exception of Parker, but that has been in place for years.
 

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TJ, is the sandstorm 300 and the tequila 150 essentially the same course? Out and back to Rock Pt?
 

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The beginning part is the same. But other than that it is a lot longer. Here is last years maps.

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From a logistics standpoint the races are very different.

Tequila 150 is 45 miles of initial course then two 50 mile laps. So not quite 150 miles

SandStorm 300 is the same initial 45 miles and then two 125 mile laps. Again, not quite 300 miles.
 

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Interesting replies to the question of actually racing IN AZ. Because the other promoter is, and can, apparently work with the entities. They also have bike races in Flagstaff. How about working with the various short course venues? Mexico, especially Sonora, is becoming more inhospitable with all the cartel in-fighting. Be terrible for a family to get caught up in that. Besides, having raced in RP for decades, it never changes. Sand, sand, and more sand. Oh, did I mention the sand? Pt to PT was a welcomed change from sand, for about 75 miles. Then, more sand.
 

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Has any racing organizations talked to the Indian tribes in Arizona lately ? Navajos have so much land in northern Az as well as hotel casino by flagstaff now. I remember years ago racing in globe racing on Apache land. I don’t believe BLM can say anything to the tribes of what they do on their own land.


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Interesting replies to the question of actually racing IN AZ. Because the other promoter is, and can, apparently work with the entities. They also have bike races in Flagstaff. How about working with the various short course venues? Mexico, especially Sonora, is becoming more inhospitable with all the cartel in-fighting. Be terrible for a family to get caught up in that. Besides, having raced in RP for decades, it never changes. Sand, sand, and more sand. Oh, did I mention the sand? Pt to PT was a welcomed change from sand, for about 75 miles. Then, more sand.

You forgot the whoops, whoops, and more whoops.

Oh and did I mention there are a few sand whoops?
 

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Actually, Indian land is only Indian land is still Federal land and the Tribe must still follow all federal land use regulations with regards to permit events like racing. NEPA, EIRs, etc... must still be done. But, if the tribe wants a race, it is more likely then will initiate the proper steps to get there. Not so much with federal agencies that have, for the last 8 years, been staffed with folks who support not having these events and do what they can to slow down/stop the process while in the works. Plus they get help from douche bag groups like the CBD and the Sierra Club who file many law suits tying up any movement towards solution for a decade at least. But I would still like to see some races in Az. beyond what is currently being run.
 

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Actually, Indian land is only Indian land is still Federal land and the Tribe must still follow all federal land use regulations with regards to permit events like racing. NEPA, EIRs, etc... must still be done. But, if the tribe wants a race, it is more likely then will initiate the proper steps to get there. Not so much with federal agencies that have, for the last 8 years, been staffed with folks who support not having these events and do what they can to slow down/stop the process while in the works. Plus they get help from douche bag groups like the CBD and the Sierra Club who file many law suits tying up any movement towards solution for a decade at least. But I would still like to see some races in Az. beyond what is currently being run.

While I agree that Indian (Native) lands are under Federal Lands, they do not have to abide by 99% of the land use permits, impact studies, and oversight that normal Federal Land have to. They don't have to have studies, approvals, course monitoring, rehabilitation or even penalties for the death of a tumbleweed the way normal public lands are. This is why many organizations have gone to develop relationships with the Tribal leaders to maintain some sort of series. The negative that a lack of oversight, also creates a lack of formal process for any promoter. The number of times Tribal leaders have changed at many of the places I support, have resulted in more than one cancellation, kicked off there property the day of the event or astronomical and financially unviable fees.
 
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