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2020 Toyo Tires Desert Invitational presented by Monster Energy

J Prich

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And now trying to keep this thread "on subject" and in keeping with the latest trends I'm ALMOST ready to go Rock Racing.....!!!!! I have a personality defect of always being "a day late and a dollar short"........ Any help with my personal issues would be appreciated....View attachment 208985

Just needs 6 tires and a driver.....!!!!
Its quite a journey from jumping over a stick on your skateboard to racing at KOH. Good luck, hope you're able to get it all worked out to make the show!
 

Surfnride1

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DTPMS

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Its quite a journey from jumping over a stick on your skateboard to racing at KOH. Good luck, hope you're able to get it all worked out to make the show!
😂 You can literally push their buttons and get them to do exactly what you want. old Timers are losing it.


Looking forward to KOH!
 

jeff

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Bacon egg and cheese. With a side of green sauce made out of the 100$ bills he makes from the race.
More like $100 bill... not bills. "In the Red" sauce on the burrito may be more common. If you knew the books you'd be amazed at what it costs to put on the event. When it's all said and done there's usually not much left over. If the event ends up in the red after all the dust settles you don't hear much about that but it happens.

Aloha
 

jon coleman

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curious, what IS the economic impact of koh overall??, racers, business , ect.. bet the migster has some crunchable number$
 

breadkrum

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Anyone have frequency channels I can program for this race? Have to handheld radios but only have pci program
 

jeff

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This is from 2018... You might want to visit the Ultra4 website to confirm:

koh_freqs.png
Aloha
 

DTPMS

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More like $100 bill... not bills. "In the Red" sauce on the burrito may be more common. If you knew the books you'd be amazed at what it costs to put on the event. When it's all said and done there's usually not much left over. If the event ends up in the red after all the dust settles you don't hear much about that but it happens.

Aloha
Was just a joke. Everyone thinks dave and the promoters of others races are becoming millionaires off each race.
 

mig29

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Rob Mac (GOAT "Greatest of All Time") & Bobby Baldwin (nicknamed "The Owl", see pic with Owl on his TT #96), they both realize XXX (Racing often misconstrued as emphasizing battle of machines) is game of *people*. They are studying/observing their opponent, for their tactics/strategy.

42. “All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.” – Sun Tzu

How has poker helped you in your job as president of CityCenter?

Poker is not a game of cards; it’s a game of people, just like business. People who think a poker game is a game of cards — we call them losers because they usually lose.

[ people mistakenly think Offroad Racing is mostly the best vehicle (think $$), see thread on "What is Robby building?" ]

You have to understand the people. You have to understand the players. Business is mostly about personnel and understanding the players, which are your employees and customers. Understanding people is everything, whether in a card game or a business.

How long did it take you to figure that out?

I’m still working on it. It’s a lifelong job to understand people. But I figured out early on that poker’s a game of people and not cards, and I’ve known that for a very long time. In a card game, everybody more or less gets the same amount of good hands and bad hands because they’re randomly dealt and randomly generated. But if you’re in an eight-handed card game, each of the eight players responds to the hands differently, even though we all more or less get the same cards. They have hands they don’t know what to do with. They don’t know whether to fold, bet and so on. About two-thirds of the hands nobody can play because they’re just junk hands. But the third of the hands that they’re likely to play, they all play very differently. Each one of them plays the same hands differently. There is a correct way to play a hand, and not many people know how to do that. Most people learn, not through books or computer programs, but through experience. You’ve been in this situation so many times, you’re tired of losing in this situation, so you change your strategy with that particular hand in that particular circumstance — just like business. We’re in this for a profit and the benefit of our stakeholders. And if we’re doing things that we’re losing at, and we can’t justify it, we have to stop it or change it or improve it. And that’s what you do when you’re trying to manage your card game.
This was also realized by Sun Tzu "Art of War" (taught at every business-college in USA)


31. Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation to the foe whom he is facing.
19. “”The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat

[ save the car in Beginning Game & Middle Game ]

and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy [ start Racing in the End Game ].” – Sun Tzu
^^^ This is what RM is doing, a "cobra strike"at the end.

RM uses a conservative defense-minded strategy realizing the Desert is the main opponent (can break cars)

"I have this Theory, I drive SLOW enough to win"
-- RobMac, 2005 Primm 300 interview, ala "Risk Management" (Bobby Baldwin quote, 2004 CNBC Baja 1000 broadcast)

RM is aware of the "Dumber than Dirt" (bonehead) syndrome inOffroad, so just sit back & let the reckless "fast" drivers take themselves out as per

"The Desert will take care of the fast guys"
-- Rod Hall

"It's not how you start, but how you finish -- Beginning game, Middle Game, End Game"

"We'll set a comfortable pace for ourselves, then at the halfway point WE'LL GO RACING"
-- Baja 500, interview with Class 1 crew-chief

He has his team keep track of splits for the leaders, then he starts racing

"What's my BACKDOOR [ time to makeup to catch the leader on time ]!!"
-- RobMac, shouting over the radio to his race-team, recent San Felipe 250 (which he won)

Sure enough, the "back shooter" surprises his opponents

24. “The quality of decision is like the well-timed swoop of a falcon which enables it to strike and destroy its victim.” – Sun Tzu
Lance Armstrong (friends with Robby Gordon) also uses a smart conservative strategy for his 7 straight Tour de France wins (taken away, due to blood doping)

"Lance Armstrong is a CALCULATED KILLER"
-- Phil Liggett, TdF commentator (former cyclist), Re: mountain stages

[ LA conserves himself, only pushes himself enough to keep the overall lead. VERY SIMILAR to what Ricky Brabec did at 2020 Dakar Rally. Early on, RB had established on overall lead. On one stage, he just followed his Honda teammate -- a safe approach to prevent disastrous navigation error (but preserves his overall lead). His interviews were very relaxed ("it's casual"), he hardly won any of the middle/later stages. He realized he had the upper-hand (overall lead), the pressure was on everyone else. He just had run "smart race" on later stages. On the last stage RB was pushing hard ]

RM is also a CALCULATED KILLER

RM took a page out of BB's book, being a good observer & making quality decisions

They call him “The Owl.”

Makes sense. Look into Bobby Baldwin’s stone-cold eyes at a card table and you’ll likely struggle to get a read on the hand he's holding. And if you’re at the table long enough to get a whiff of Baldwin’s calculations, the poker pro’s likely figured you out.

Baldwin drew attention to himself when he became one of the youngest players ever to win the World Series of Poker.

That’s also how the Tulsa native caught the attention of Steve Wynn, who hired him as a casino consultant in 1982. For the next 18 years, Baldwin stood with Wynn through the building of the Mirage, Treasure Island and the Bellagio.
from above URL:

33. He who can modify his tactics in relation to his opponent and thereby succeed in winning, may be called a heaven-born captain.
This sounds Darwinian (see pic)

"It's not the strongest species that survives, nor the most intelligent..but the one which is most ADAPTABLE TO CHANGE"
-- Charles Darwin, evolutionary theorist
 

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Bricoop

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Rob Mac (GOAT "Greatest of All Time") & Bobby Baldwin (nicknamed "The Owl", see pic with Owl on his TT #96), they both realize XXX (Racing often misconstrued as emphasizing battle of machines) is game of *people*. They are studying/observing their opponent, for their tactics/strategy.






This was also realized by Sun Tzu "Art of War" (taught at every business-college in USA)






^^^ This is what RM is doing, a "cobra strike"at the end.

RM uses a conservative defense-minded strategy realizing the Desert is the main opponent (can break cars)

"I have this Theory, I drive SLOW enough to win"
-- RobMac, 2005 Primm 300 interview, ala "Risk Management" (Bobby Baldwin quote, 2004 CNBC Baja 1000 broadcast)

RM is aware of the "Dumber than Dirt" (bonehead) syndrome inOffroad, so just sit back & let the reckless "fast" drivers take themselves out as per

"The Desert will take care of the fast guys"
-- Rod Hall

"It's not how you start, but how you finish -- Beginning game, Middle Game, End Game"

"We'll set a comfortable pace for ourselves, then at the halfway point WE'LL GO RACING"
-- Baja 500, interview with Class 1 crew-chief

He has his team keep track of splits for the leaders, then he starts racing

"What's my BACKDOOR [ time to makeup to catch the leader on time ]!!"
-- RobMac, shouting over the radio to his race-team, recent San Felipe 250 (which he won)

Sure enough, the "back shooter" surprises his opponents



Lance Armstrong (friends with Robby Gordon) also uses a smart conservative strategy for his 7 straight Tour de France wins (taken away, due to blood doping)

"Lance Armstrong is a CALCULATED KILLER"
-- Phil Liggett, TdF commentator (former cyclist), Re: mountain stages

[ LA conserves himself, only pushes himself enough to keep the overall lead. VERY SIMILAR to what Ricky Brabec did at 2020 Dakar Rally. Early on, RB had established on overall lead. On one stage, he just followed his Honda teammate -- a safe approach to prevent disastrous navigation error (but preserves his overall lead). His interviews were very relaxed ("it's casual"), he hardly won any of the middle/later stages. He realized he had the upper-hand (overall lead), the pressure was on everyone else. He just had run "smart race" on later stages. On the last stage RB was pushing hard ]

RM is also a CALCULATED KILLER

RM took a page out of BB's book, being a good observer & making quality decisions



from above URL:



This sounds Darwinian (see pic)

"It's not the strongest species that survives, nor the most intelligent..but the one which is most ADAPTABLE TO CHANGE"
-- Charles Darwin, evolutionary theorist
 
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