4x4 prerunner

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I've been reading the posts on rangers/explorers, broncos, and toyota 4x4s. I'm looking at doing a 4x4 and am trying to decide what the best platform would be so feel free to suggest other vehicles. It will have to be a crew cab or Suv. It will not be a daily driver but must be streetable. It will be used for prerunning, backcountry trips, and general 4 wheeling. From what I've learned so far, the Ford I-beam has a lot of development behind it and seems to be a very strong design. I'm a little partial to Toyotas but the A-arm design appears to be inherently weaker than the I-beam but I would think it offers better handling than the I-beams with their radical camber changes through the travel. Also, what do you gain by moving away from leaf springs in the rear and is this feasible for a streetable vehicle that must also have usable passenger and storage space behind the driver seat?
 

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id go with toyota, and for the rear take it to us at deaver. we can get you around 16" of working travel in a daily driver, with our 62" springs. for the front, if you are gonna be mainly prerunning, then a arm is the way to go, if you were gonna do mainly crawling, then solid axle front is the way. (yes we can make the solid axle work bitchin' for prerunning too.) if you go aarm, then you have a lot of choices of where to take it- ats, camburg, donahoe, total chaos, etc. (those are in alphabetical order, not by how i prefer them, although i like ats best)

either way, good luck

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Hay erik, I have a '92 Toy 4x4 and am going to need some new springs here soon. How much are those 62" leafs you mentioned?

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I know Super Dave has a Toy 4x with more off-road miles on his truck than any other person I know and it seems really durable and seems to ride nice also. And another freind (Pete) has a 4x ranger that is not all that built and works better than most coil-overed-widened beam-bad ass-2 wd- rangers i've ever been in. And if you wanna go crazy look at Kyle LeDuc skying his bronco at our last meeting.

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I have 95 Ford Ranger 4x4. It has a Camburg custom set-up and has 10-12" of travel with all the parts attached. I also have 2 1/2" Saw's with custom buckets. Nationals and Bilstein's bring up the rear. Jason, "the man" at Camburg just finished a custom set of widened and strengthened beams for his 4x4 explorer. I have never seen such immaculate craftsmanship on a truck. It has 16" of usable travel with a 12" coil-over and a 4-tube bypass per side. If you could see it in person, you'd know what I mean. Check it out http://www.camburg.com</A>

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squash...have any pics of your camburg front end? Does it work sweet?
 

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Squash, what did you do to the front axle, if anything to strengthen it. I have heard that on the full size 4x4 Broncos the front axles are Dana 44s and they aren't the most robust set up. What did your Ranger have stock and what can be don to beef it up? Also, It'd be great to see some pictures of it.
 

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The front axle on my truck is not strengthened at all. Camburg "bent" the beams to re align them. Camburg now has widened beams that are trussed with mig weld and tig weld as well. The reanger comes stock with Dana 35 TTB front suspension. I ahve heard that the front axles form a f-150 can be put in their place with minimal modification. You'd have to check with a fabshop to confirm that however.
I don't have any recent pictures but i'll have to take some.
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I was measuring out where I wanted my air bumps over the weekend and noticed that with the torsion bars relaxed the arms cycle through more travel then the stock CV's would be able to handle without binding on my '98 ranger. Would it be do-able, and would I gain any travel if I swap out my ford OEM CV'c for 930 CV's. I've noticed on some baja's with 930 CV's they are at pretty gnarly angles and still work without binding. Thanks.
 

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I don't know that you would gain any more travel, but you would definately have a more "trouble-free" system. My truck does not have torsion bars, so the system is less complex. Longer axles would definately help.

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We discussed building a long-travel 4x4 Explorer on the '95-up rigs on the Explorerforum.com board briefly. Maybe you could remove the torsion bars and stock shocks completely and add a coilover on each wheel? Mount them to the spindles, then run them up to an engine cage?

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Hey Dirt Devil, saw your comment on the solid front axle. Ive got an 85 xtracab Toyota 4x4. What can you guys reccomend for it? Im running bolt in Nationals up front with dual FOXs right now. Could use more travel. The rear is already done. Thanks.

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Well, its not. No coil-overs, no 4-link, no 9" (although thats changing), no air bumps, not caged bumper to bumper, but damn! that truck floats through the rough stuff. There'd be fewer people wanting 4-links if they would ride in his truck. And I DID say his fab work is superb.

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