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cynicwanderer

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Holy crap there’s a whole lotta VCPs !!! Way too many.
since they are implemented in software, they are essentially free for them to implement... looks like there are a lot of "shortcuts" too. BTW, what is the penalty for missing a VCP ? I bet if you add up the penalties for missing the VCPs if you take the shortcut, you will lose each time. unless you are really slow, of course.
 

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I've been told Robby used to shortcut the course and didn't care if he got caught because he'd save xx amount of time and only get penalized half of that so it was worth it.
 

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cynicwanderer

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I've been told Robby used to shortcut the course and didn't care if he got caught because he'd save xx amount of time and only get penalized half of that so it was worth it.
checkpoints and the the art of evaluating the risk of cutting/penalties has always been part of off road racing and is certainly part of racing strategy. if they really want to take that element out of racing, they could very easily implement a continuous penalty zone which is xx feet from the published GPS track, stray outside the zone, and it's a penalty, stray too far/long and it's a DQ. if your Stella/Tracker mysteriously "fails" and then suddenly works at tech after the race, then it's a penalty/DQ.
 

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checkpoints and the the art of evaluating the risk of cutting/penalties has always been part of off road racing and is certainly part of racing strategy. if they really want to take that element out of racing, they could very easily implement a continuous penalty zone which is xx feet from the published GPS track, stray outside the zone, and it's a penalty, stray too far/long and it's a DQ. if your Stella/Tracker mysteriously "fails" and then suddenly works at tech after the race, then it's a penalty/DQ.
that would eliminate about 80% of the competitors.. LOL
 

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checkpoints and the the art of evaluating the risk of cutting/penalties has always been part of off road racing and is certainly part of racing strategy. if they really want to take that element out of racing, they could very easily implement a continuous penalty zone which is xx feet from the published GPS track, stray outside the zone, and it's a penalty, stray too far/long and it's a DQ. if your Stella/Tracker mysteriously "fails" and then suddenly works at tech after the race, then it's a penalty/DQ.

Funny thing, the racer brief states if you deviate more than 60' off the GPS line, that the little bit of insurance afforded you for being an entered racer, $10,500 IIRC, is null and void. even though you can miss a VCP by no more than 120'.
 

cynicwanderer

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Funny thing, the racer brief states if you deviate more than 60' off the GPS line, that the little bit of insurance afforded you for being an entered racer, $10,500 IIRC, is null and void. even though you can miss a VCP by no more than 120'.
which is probably no big deal to some racers, since they probably have their own insurance or are "self-insured".
 

cynicwanderer

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Ya, I get that. I find the 120' vs. 60' thing, well, interesting.
apparently the VCPs aren't always "on" the course. this one is 22ft off to the side.

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mebedb1

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That's pickin' the fly poop out of the pepper 😂 . you'd be 1/4 mile off course to miss that one.
 

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I could be wrong but SCOREs official tracking is not a constant data stream, it "pings" or sends timed data locations of the car/bike. In theory they may not be able to see all "course cuts" if they are small, or even deviations from the marked course. Plus, I have always wondered to what extent SCORE will review each racers data to find deviations. It all adds time to releasing the official results, which we all hate...
 

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besides, our pantys get into a Wadd when lets say a 'Andy M.' cheats ( course cut), & wins by, lets say 2 minutes, ive Never strayed off course.what im saying would score call^ a.m. out on a ' small infraction'?yes they do( see next post😖)
 
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cynicwanderer

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I could be wrong but SCOREs official tracking is not a constant data stream, it "pings" or sends timed data locations of the car/bike. In theory they may not be able to see all "course cuts" if they are small, or even deviations from the marked course. Plus, I have always wondered to what extent SCORE will review each racers data to find deviations. It all adds time to releasing the official results, which we all hate...
not sure how they implement VCPs for sure. I suspect they use geo-fences, like the speed zones. that way they can just collect which VCPs you hit, which would be easy to pull out of the unit, either via satellites or with a USB or Bluetooth device at the finish. the probably don't pull the GPS log to analyze it, unless there is an incident/accident or someone contests the finish. but then, with a PC and special software/script it wouldn't take long to compare the GPS log to the "official track" and show where you deviated, but if you did it for everyone it would take some time, so just for "special treatment". how do they deal with teams who's tracker "broke" during the race and then magically worked at the end...
 

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This is what they send you when you miss a VCP. Cost us the win at the 500. missed 120' by about 120', 10 second gain cost 10 min.
looks to be a few pings around the area.

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That is really interesting! I may be wrong then. I have never asked for the data on my misses. But, I guess if you are driving slow enough then the pings might just be caught. Now if it is creative line that hits all VCPs that would be different.
 
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