Bender Lube - Anyone tried this stuff?

jeff

Moderator
I've been searching for an easier and and less time consuming lubricant when bending tube with a bender. The stuff I've been using always ends up making a mess and I have to clean the tube before it's welded. I've been looking at some water based gels and located a product I think might help out a few of the fabricators and do-it-yourselfers on the site.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.irmco.com/gelindex.html>http://www.irmco.com/gelindex.html</A>

Anyone currently using a water based gel like the one in the above link?

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1992f150

Well-Known Member
what is the point of the lube? I asked the desert tools guy about oiling the tube he said to clean it off good and no oil, it makes it slip farther in the die before it catches and starts bending.

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fishd00d

What A Joke
I have given up trying to use lube on the metal. No matter what I use it still makes little marks on the metal around the outside of the bend. I have tryed everything and am yet to find a way to stop it.

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ntsqd

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I've used 30wt oil on the slipper die only with good results. Lubing the slipper die not only reduces or elims the marks on the tube, it also keeps the die in better shape. Once you've galled the slipper die you'll never get a godd finish on any tube.

Try a little animal lard, mutton will work the best. In the coldest of winter, thin it with non detergent 30wt.

TS

"It only seems kinky the first time"
-- Bumpersticker seen in Lost Wages
 

partybarge_pilot

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Switch to DOM or Chro-mo. It's harder on the surface and won't smear with polished die's. For those of you useing ERW. I'm going to try getting the shoe plated with some teflon inpregnated nickel theat we use on die's. We'll see how it works....
 

ntsqd

Well-Known Member
Cal-Tef from Cal Tech Plating ?

That stuff is awesome. Reduced the trigger pull on my .45 from 3.5 lbs to 2.75 lbs and it won't double.

TS

"It only seems kinky the first time"
-- Bumpersticker seen in Lost Wages
 

jeff

Moderator
This thread is sort of getting off topic :)

I was just wondering if anyone had used a water based gel lubricant with their benders. The whole idea of me using a water based lubricant is to get away from the mess and cleanup involved when using the oil or animal based products. I think I'll order a sample and see how it goes. I've been studying up on it and it appears that BMW and others are using it. It sounds like the water based stuff is being adopted by more and more high output fabrication companies and I thought if it works well and saves them time and money it might do the same for me.

Oh yeah, to get even more off-topic I'll mention that during my searches online I also came across a bunch of information that links Parkinson'ss Disease with welding - that's no bueno.

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JrSyko

Jerry Maguire
I just read an interesting article in the LA Times on the dire consequences of taking Ectasy and how it can increase your chances of Parkinsons by in some cases, 70%!!! I hope it doesn't apply to any off you guys.

Sorry for taking this even more off topic!

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ntsqd

Well-Known Member
"Oh yeah, to get even more off-topic I'll mention that during my searches online I also came across a bunch of information that links Parkinson'ss Disease with welding - that's no bueno."

Oh man, I didn't need that !
I've been worried about a shake I've picked up over the last 2 years. Some days I can't TIG weld, I just have to lay down the torch and come back another day. Think I'll go back to the Doc and ask those kind of questions.....
Getting old sucks, I highly advise against it.

TS

"It only seems kinky the first time"
-- Bumpersticker seen in Lost Wages
 

jeff

Moderator
Since some of the best threads on RDC end up off-topic why not let this one run wild too.

If you want more info on the Parkinson's Disease and welding go to <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.weldingandparkinsonsdisease.com/>www.weldingandparkinsonsdisease.com/</A>

Here's off-topic... I learned more useful stuff from my Consumer Behavior professor in one quarter than all the other classes combined. It's a proven fact that doctors are busy people that don't have the time or the ability to know everything there is to know about medicine. That's why specialists specialize. The problem is that locating a specialist is impossible if you don't know what is wrong with you or if you can't get a doctor to give you a proper referral. Many general practitioners know very little about a lot of things - when in reality the patient needs someone that knows everything about everything. You can't diagnose what you don't know. 99% of the time you are better off to use the internet and current medical journals to help diagnose your own non-life threatening problems. If you ask your doctor what current journals he/she is reading and he/she says none, find a new doctor. Many doctors are AMAZED when I tell them I want a specific treatment that they've never even heard of. The good doctors will research what you bring them hopefully will use the knowledge to benefit future patients.

If somebody you know has got the shakes you might want to tell them to get them checked out. People are like cars - to keep the old ones running well requires more maintenance. I've had the shakes since I was a little kid so welding and painting are things I have problems with because I just tremble like a coke fiend. You might be healthy as an Ox and just shake :)

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