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<blockquote data-quote="Wayne_Nosala" data-source="post: 18281" data-attributes="member: 71">Hey Gang&nbsp; I have a transcript from the last friends of Jawbone meeting, Hector Villalobos clarifies the Rand closures, he complains of abuses by off roaders not followingthe rulesPaul Kober (CORVA) states &quot;the rands have been a controversy. The area was opento competition, then was closed and changed to limited routes. there has been alot of violations out there, mainly because the trails have not been maintained.&quot;CBD has gone to court. BLM has petitioned the court for an extension of the dates.The&nbsp; court agreed. the center said OK, but close everything in the randswest of R-43. the BLM agreed, Paul said the BLM should not close this area. Hefeels the BLM did not maintain the trails. Hector replies&quot; the people are ignoring the rules made by the BLM, committingarson, going off trails, etc, he does not feel that lack of trail maintenance is the problemPaul Kober states he does not feel &quot;land manegment&quot; means &quot; land closure&quot;I could go on, but my typing skills do not let me transcribe very quick fromthis documentAnyway, I dont see anything that was said about tortoises in the meeting, there is already&nbsp; thousands of acres set aside for the tortoises in the area Its sad to see that area closed, I am very farmiliar with it, Its very scenic to drive inWayne</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wayne_Nosala, post: 18281, member: 71"] Hey Gang I have a transcript from the last friends of Jawbone meeting, Hector Villalobos clarifies the Rand closures, he complains of abuses by off roaders not following the rules Paul Kober (CORVA) states "the rands have been a controversy. The area was open to competition, then was closed and changed to limited routes. there has been a lot of violations out there, mainly because the trails have not been maintained." CBD has gone to court. BLM has petitioned the court for an extension of the dates.The court agreed. the center said OK, but close everything in the rands west of R-43. the BLM agreed, Paul said the BLM should not close this area. He feels the BLM did not maintain the trails. Hector replies" the people are ignoring the rules made by the BLM, committing arson, going off trails, etc, he does not feel that lack of trail maintenance is the problem Paul Kober states he does not feel "land manegment" means " land closure" I could go on, but my typing skills do not let me transcribe very quick from this document Anyway, I dont see anything that was said about tortoises in the meeting, there is already thousands of acres set aside for the tortoises in the area Its sad to see that area closed, I am very farmiliar with it, Its very scenic to drive in Wayne [/QUOTE]

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