Thanks for all the feedback on my first thread. I figured instead of just your usual drivel, I would try to provoke some thought and some real interesting thoughts from you guys. I figured as in all threads, some people would call names and others would try to philosiphy, just a real simple thread kind of like comparing old football players to current players. I was reading a thread about safety in seats, and how much faster everybody is nowadays, and how much more dangerous it is. Maybe I am old, living in the past, but somehow, I just don't see that great of difference in danger. I would like to see more thought provoking and actual racing discussions. Even though we will probably always disagree. Thanks for the responses, Gruden Sizemore.