California Budget Problems

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
The Budget Committee is looking for ways to save as many state parks as possible. They have now come up with the idea of stealing the gas tax money from OHV and sharing it with all of the others parks.

We need you to contact your own legislator and members of the budget committee with a letter, note or phone call that says don't punish OHV for doing a good job.

Let them know that OHV is user-supported, budgets for law enforcement and environmental concerns, including preservation of endangered species, and has been managed to be prepared for a rainy day. They have also already given ninety million dollars from their acquisition and improvement fund to offset the budget.

OHV parks are among the most visited in the park system. Don't punish those who have supported proper management and user fees by taking away their program.

2009 Budget Conference Committee Members

Assembly

Noreen Evans - Fax 319-2107 (phone 319-2007)
Roger Niello - Fax 319-2105 (phone 319-2004)
Bob Blumenfield - 319-2140 (phone 319-2040)
Kevin de Leon - Fax 319-2145 (phone 319-2045)
Jim Nielsen - Fax 319-2102 (phone 319-2002)

Senate

Denise Ducheny - Fax 327-3522 (phone 651-4040)
Bob Dutton - Fax 327-2272 (phone 651-4031)
Mark Leno - Fax 445-4722 (phone 651-4003)
Alan Lowenthal - Fax 327-9113 (phone 651-4027)
Mimi Walters - Fax 651-4033 (phone 651-4033)

ALL PHONE NUMBERS AND FAX AREA CODE (916)
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Jerry Grabow


District 37 Off-Road President 2008-09
Four Aces MC
0812
Wellcome to the party Jerry
...TJ:rolleyes:
 

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
Don't know what good it's going to do at this point, at least the Org's appear to be on it this time, only problem is I think our elected officials main concern is the best way to keep Lynch mobs out of Sacramento. You think the 92 LA riots were bad just wait till the well-fare checks start bouncing, people always take the path of least resistance, we should at least write the letters of course but frankly, I don't think we're even going to make the radar...TJ:p
 

Vtr_Racing

Well-Known Member
You think the 92 LA riots were bad just wait till the well-fare checks start bouncing, people always take the path of least resistance,
If history is to be repeated by those that never read history. You are 100% correct.
 

Mike @ pit b

#Mike@PlanB
There is a letter on RacerXonline HERE! that you can copy and then send to the Governator.
 

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
The Governors office
Dear Fellow Californian -

Today California started its fiscal year without a balanced budget plan and the Governor has declared a fiscal state of emergency.

The Governor has been clear: he will not sign a budget that does not solve the entire problem nor will he sign a budget that raises taxes. He has also made clear that waste, fraud and abuse must be rooted out of state government.

Despite this, yesterday Democrats in the Legislature passed a half solution, along party lines, that raised taxes. True to his word, the Governor vetoed it.

Email your legislators today, tell them enough is enough. The people of this state want government to live within its means without sticking hardworking taxpayers with a bigger bill. Tell them that it is time to do what is best for the people of California by making the tough decisions we sent them to Sacramento to make.

If Democrats in the Legislature do not work with the Governor and their Republican colleagues to find a real solution to the ENTIRE deficit that does not include tax increases, the consequences will be felt throughout the state. Small businesses and local governments will get I.O.U's from Sacramento rather than checks. And more cuts will have to be made because right now the state is spending money it does not have.

There is no time to waste, join us in urging the Legislature to pass a real budget solution for our state, without raising taxes. It is time for our elected leaders in Sacramento to find a real solution instead of continuing to play political games. Click here to send an email directly to your representatives.

Thank you,
The California Dream Team
I heard some talk something is on the Governors desk (let us pray for our fund), so this may allready be outdated, but as far as Email I say send a FAX becuase it leaves paper they have to pick up, electronic mail boxes are too easy to flush...TJ:p
 

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090703/us_time/08599190750400

By KEVIN O'LEARY / LOS ANGELES Kevin O'leary / Los Angeles – Fri Jul 3, 6:00 pm ET
With California a day away from issuing IOUs instead of paying its bills, Gov. Schwarzenegger and the legislature remain at odds over how to close a now $26.3 billion deficit. Schwarzenegger on Thursday ordered a third unpaid furlough day for 235,000 state employees. With its $1.7 trillion economy sputtering and 11.5% unemployment surging, California's difficulty in balancing its budget could affect the national recovery.

But the Golden State's budget problems are hardly new. The seeds of them were planted more than 30 years ago.


They begin with the 1978 property tax revolt and the victory of Proposition 13. As California experienced a dramatic escalation in home values, property tax assessments skyrocketed. Especially vulnerable were seniors on fixed incomes. When then Gov. Jerry Brown and the legislature dithered, conservative activists led by Howard Jarvis put a seductively simple sounding proposition on the ballot. Under Proposition 13, the annual real estate tax on a parcel of property would be limited to 1% of its assessed value and this assessed value would only increase by a maximum of 2% per year, until a change in ownership. Voters responded and Proposition 13 scored a dramatic victory with 65% of the vote. Property tax rates dropped an average of 57%.


While homeowners celebrated, city, county and school district officials sat in stunned disbelief. There were predictions of drastic cuts to education and social services. But the ax did not fall as Sacramento, flush with a multibillion-dollar surplus, bailed out local governments and the schools. But the state rescue was accompanied by a loss of local control. As a result of Proposition 13, school districts, county governments and cities were forced to compete with state priorities for a slice of the state budget.


"In the first years after Proposition 13 passed, the state was able to get by because it had a surplus," says David Menefee-Libey, a political scientist at Pomona College. "But because the state is now responsible for funding local government and school districts the demands on state resources became too great. The second strategy followed by [Governors Gray] Davis and [Arnold] Schwarzenegger has been to finesse the fiscal crisis by using budget gimmicks and by borrowing to bridge the yearly budget shortfall. Now both options are exhausted."


Proposition 13 has proved to be a two-sided sword. "One side was to protect the people from the government suddenly and wildly raising property taxes," says Bob Hertzberg, a former Assembly Speaker and co- chair of California Forward, a bipartisan reform group. "That was done. But we didn't resolve how to pay for the services that people want. So we have created this crazy government structure in Sacramento held together by duct tape and bailing wire. It's not coherent and needs to be changed."


Proposition 13 further altered California politics by requiring a two-thirds majority for tax increases either at the state or local level. This requirement along with a constitutional provision requiring a two-thirds majority to pass a budget - the result of a proposition passed in 1933 - means it is far more difficult to raise taxes or pass a budget in California than in other states. For more than 30 years California has been living with a system of minority rule in which 34% of the legislature or a local community can stonewall the majority. Facing this post-Proposition 13 system, California's various interest groups have increasingly used the ballot box to protect themselves - but by so doing have mandated budgetary havoc.


For example, pre-Proposition 13, California public schools were among the finest in the nation. After Proposition 13, education spending per pupil dropped to 48th in the nation. The state's educators and parents then rallied behind Proposition 98, which by a complex formula apportions roughly 40% of the state budget to K-14 education. In the past three decades, other special interests have authored - and voters have passed - numerous ballot measures dictating that millions in state funds go to various pet causes. Many of these measures, including a preschool initiative sponsored by Schwarzenegger in 2002, mandate a program but fail to provide a source of funding. Each proposal alone might have merit, but collectively these ballot measures have locked most of California's budget in place. "Gradually, the voters' piecemeal decisions have bound the legislature in a straightjacket," says Thad Kousser, a professor of political science at UC San Diego.


Similar to the Red vs. Blue state clash in the nation as a whole, there are two Californias. Historically, there was the liberal north versus the conservative south. Since the days of Governors Pat Brown and Ronald Reagan, the clash has been between older, predominately Anglo voters, living in the suburbs and rural counties and largely voting Republican, and younger voters, more likely to be Asian or Latino or black or Middle Eastern, who are more prevalent in California's urban centers and hip suburbs and who predominantly support Democrats. As the state's population has become diverse and Anglo voters have seen their own children grow up and leave the public schools, there has been a backlash of the first against the second, as seen in conservative ballot measures such as Proposition 13 (property taxes), Proposition 187 (illegal immigration) and Proposition 8 (gay marriage). Conservative Anglos, a minority of the state's population as a whole, are vocal and continue to exert power beyond their census numbers because they vote in relatively higher percentages, and because GOP votes are required to pass a budget or enact new taxes under the state's unusual two- thirds majority requirements.


Read "Schwarzenegger's Failure in California"


Read "California's Fiscal Crisis: The Legacy of Proposition 13"


Read "Can the U.S. Afford to Let California Fail?"

View this article on Time.com

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ti...8599,1907504,00.html?xid=rss-fullnation-yahoo


Related articles on Time.com:

California's Budget Crisis: Is There a Way Out?
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ti...89,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-full-nation-related

California's Fiscal Crisis: The Legacy of Proposition 13
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ti...38,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-full-nation-related

Two Years After Campaign Began, A Different World
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ti...m/?p=70485&xid=feed-yahoo-full-nation-related

The Great California Fiscal Earthquake
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ti...99,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-full-nation-related
Here we go agian just blame the tax cuts, liberals will just never get it...TJ:rolleyes:
 

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
PEER? Don't see anything in their manifesto about being financially responsible, if they were they would figure out how to get Parks to pay their own way, rather then dreaming up flawed augments to take from those that did...TJ:rolleyes:
 

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
PEER? Don't see anything in their manifesto about being financially responsible, if they were they would figure out how to get Parks to pay their own way, rather then dreaming up flawed augments to take from those that did. Frankly if theres all these NON Motorized users out there, why don't they ever anti up any money to pay for what they want, is it because they really not exist in the first place?

(special interest politics keeps it locked away)

It's really?? NO just a few special interest politicians coveting what is not rightfully there,s


Tom
I left this Comment, let's see how long it stays there...TJ:D
 

Vtr_Racing

Well-Known Member
You guys in Calif have a silver lining here but its gonna take alot of effort. Your State is seriously considering privatizing, selling, outsourcing your lands to the highest bidder, or so it seems. We can use/sieze this crisis and create an opportunity to benefit OHV use and the financial issues. I think Rahm Emanuel said this, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." Use the same....On them...
 

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
You guys in Calif have a silver lining here but its gonna take alot of effort. Your State is seriously considering privatizing, selling, outsourcing your lands to the highest bidder, or so it seems. We can use/sieze this crisis and create an opportunity to benefit OHV use and the financial issues. I think Rahm Emanuel said this, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." Use the same....On them...
WWW.OHMVR.COM Total Off Road Recreation!

I'm not the one you need to convince, with me your preaching to the choir perhaps a State Agency program would have been a good idea, if we picked a better State to trust our money with...TJ:rolleyes:
 

bomber

Well-Known Member
I got this when I emailed them using the @govmail.com address:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

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YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

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Subject: OHV Funds Should NOT Be Used For Non-OHV State Parks
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TomJeeps

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http://news.aol.com/article/north-korea-cyber-attacks/560750

WASHINGTON (July 8) — The powerful attack that overwhelmed computers at U.S. and South Korean government agencies for days was even broader than initially realized, also targeting the White House, the Pentagon and the New York Stock Exchange.
Other targets of the attack included the National Security Agency, Homeland Security Department, State Department, the Nasdaq stock market and The Washington Post, according to an early analysis of the malicious software used in the attacks. Many of the organizations appeared to successfully blunt the sustained computer assaults.
This may have something to do with it, lot's going on other than our issues I hate to say it...TJ:p
 

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
I got this when I emailed them using the @govmail.com address:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:

governor@govmail.com

Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)

Technical details of temporary failure:
The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7720
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:33:52 -0700
Message-ID: <5605190907061533j7f3c44d3sebc7b63bc471652f@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: OHV Funds Should NOT Be Used For Non-OHV State Parks
To: governor@govmail.com
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Again I allways recommend sending a FAX, give them paper they have to deal with electronic mail boxes are too easy to put on ignor...TJ:D
 

TomJeeps

Well-Known Member
http://www.peer.org/docs/ca/07_6_9_Cal_PEER_case.pdf

California
Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility
P.O. Box 4057 Georgetown, CA 95634
Phone: (530) 333‐2545
Email: capeer@peer.org
June 3, 2009
Memorandum
To: Governor Schwarzenegger, Members of the Budget Conference Committee, Interested parties
From: Karen Schambach, California Coordinator, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility
Subject: The Dept. of Parks and Recreation should be getting 83% of motor vehicle fuel tax revenues that now go to the Off Highway Vehicle Division
1. The OHV Division refuses to fund any project that doesn’t provide for green sticker recreation (non‐street legal motorcycles. ATVs, snowmobiles, etc.)1
2. The Fuel Tax Survey shows that 82.6 percent of motor vehicle fuel account revenues transferred to the OHV Trust fund pursuant to Revenue and Tax Code Section 8352.6 are from taxes on fuels used in recreation by street legal vehicles. 2
In FY 2008/09 fuel tax transfers to the OHV Trust Fund were $60 million dollars. They are estimated to be the same in FY 2009/2010.
The OHV Division, by refusing to fund any “non‐green sticker” opportunity, is in violation of the spirit and the express language in SB742 that provided for “extra consideration” for projects that provided motorized access to non‐motorized recreation. The legislature should therefore reallocate the $49.8
1 Email correspondence between Karen Schambach and Phil Jenkins, OHV Division Chief. (Available upon request)
2 ICF International, “Estimating the State Fuel Tax Paid on Gasoline Used in the Off‐Highway Operation of Vehicles for Recreation.” 2006
million dollars attributable to street legal vehicle use to the Department of Parks and Recreation to support the street legal motorized access to recreation that the legislature intended when it passed SB742.​
When you FAX the Governor this is the sick "give us someone Else's money pitch" we need to respond to, must take some serous drugs to actually think this was the intent of the Legislators...:rolleyes:
 

ibismojo

Well-Known Member
If I'm paying fuel tax for my truck to go out to OHV parks to ride around in my off-road vehicle, why is it wrong that that tax be used to help fund my OHV parks? I don't work 50 hours a week for other people's fun. I'm suppose to give up my time and effort to those who don't want to work 50 hours a week?
 
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