I know the guy who bought and he is an honest good guy. You should be talking about the seller. Did someone make an offer below the asking price and place a deposit? I don't know what it sold for but I would bet it was the full asking price which was a bargain. BTW, It is not the third Chenowth 1000 built. It has the exact same serial number as the car I bought from Dallas a few months ago. I talked to Lynn Chenowth today about how two cars had the same number and he said the reason two cars would have the same serial number is because mine in Chromoly and the Pheonix car is mild steel. My car is 1133 / C1RL1W and the Phoenix car is 1133 / M1RL1W. Lynn said the chromoly and mild steel cars each had their own numbering. My only interest in the Phoenix car is that I had been asked by Jim Guthrie to try to locate his old car. This Phoenix car is possibly it. If we can document that then we will have to try to buy it from the new owner just like anyone else.What a d... ! Some people need a ass beating.
Just to clear things up. I know the buyer is a good guy by reputation only. I have never met or spoken to the buyer... ever. We have a mutual friend that has relayed my messages to him which were only about certain details of the car. I had no idea what the buyer knew about any previous deal and only learned of your deposit from your post above. I am hoping to find a specific car and and based on the details I requested through the mutual friend, this car is promising. If the car checks out, then we will have to try to convince the new buyer to sell it. I have no personal interest in this car as I just bought a Chenowth 1000 a few months ago that we have started to restore. I just assumed that the seller was offered more. I bought many things were the seller said "first one who shows up with the cash gets it". Like I said before, if anyone has a gripe it should be with the seller who should have at least communicated with you. When I take a deposit on something I am selling and get a call, I tell people that a deal has been made and ask if they want to be contacted if it falls through. As a seller I have always stuck to commitments but always try to have a backup buyer too.I do not see the need for this thread to go the wrong direction. In my opinion this whole situation could have been avoided a few ways.
1. The seller was generous enough to show the vehicle on Christmas eve. An offer was made and accepted. In an effort to let the seller return home to his family I offered to pick up the vehicle after Christmas and he thought that was best. He didn't know me and I didn't know him. Should I trust him and just give him cash and hope he was a good guy? Probably not. That is why a deposit was left. I am at fault because I should have paid the man and taken a several hours to round everything up.
2. The seller should have lived up to the deal he made and if I violated the agreement he then could sell the car to someone else and keep my deposit. Additionally, knowing he made a deal, he still entertained offers and did not inform me the car had sold nor did he give me an opportunity to counter offer. It wasn't until I showed up that I found out I was cut out of the deal. The seller was not a very ethical person.
2. Lantana TX you are correct on the information regarding the deal. You know this because your friend told you exactly what transpired. So he obviously knew a deal had been struck and a deposit paid on the car. Knowing this, your friend did not respect the deal in place, offered more than the already agreed upon price in order to get the seller to give him the car. He has the car, so best of luck when you restore it,
So this entire discussion can end and hopefully the car is restored and raced once again.