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Dakar 2017 Stage 5 TUPIZA - ORURO
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Ferrari333SP
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Anybody have a link to the withdrawn list? Is Sainz out?
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I received a Pug media email that said he is withdrawn...
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Tomorrow's stage looks to be just as tough, if not more gnarly, than today's stage
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Read these from the bottom up for the full effect:
10:04 Walkner turns back! Matthias Walkner now has a chasm between himself and his rivals, but even though he was on the right track, the Austrian has mysteriously changed direction! What an incredible start to the special!
10:01 Quintanilla back on track Pablo Quintanilla has returned to the correct route on the special, but it is another catastrophe for Joan Barreda, who is now five kilometres from the right track and has been followed by Ricky Brabec.
09:58 Van Beveren also in dire straits After a quick start to the special, Adrien Van Beveren has fallen into the same trap as his rivals and has got lost after approximately 147 km.
09:55 De Soultrait and Quintanilla still going wrong Pablo Quintanilla is still following the wrong track and is getting further away from the correct route. The case is even worse for Xavier de Soultrait and Michael Metge, who are more than five kilometres away from where they should be. Joan Barreda is almost back on track after having lost plenty of time.
09:52 A big gap possible for Walkner Opening the way today, Matthias Walkner is the only rider to have not made a mistake in his choice of track. The Austrian could build a big gap between himself and all his rivals!
09:48 Barreda lost, Svitko and Quintanilla following More drama on the Dakar: Joan Barreda has turned back looking for the right track and after Metge and De soultrait, now the general standings leader Pablo Quintanilla and Stefan Svitko have made the same mistake as Barreda to get themselves lost.
09:38 Barreda, Metge and De soultrait get lost! Joan Barreda has gone astray from the correct route by several kilometres. Michael Metge and Xavier de Soultrait have followed him and made the same mistake.
09:33 All over for Zongshen Thierry Bethys was the last representative of the Chinese constructor Zongshen, which is participating in its first Dakar. However, the brand’s debut hopes went up in smoke, because the Frenchman, who completed his first five Dakars, could do nothing but drop out of the race after his machine caught fire and burned on the fourth stage.
09:22 Van Beveren closes in Adrien Van Beveren trails his countryman Michael Metge by only 37 seconds at WP1, and is right behind Joan Barreda, making this a promising start to the special for a rider still looking for his first stage victory on the Dakar.
09:11 Sanz bides her time Laia Sanz, who is about to start the special, is having a discrete start to the Dakar for the moment. The young lady occupies 24th position in the general standings, 1 hour and 26 minutes behind Pablo Quintanilla. However, the official KTM rider knows that there is still a long way to go on the Dakar and she has not made the slightest mistake so far.
08:56 Quintanilla trails by 1’21 The new rally leader Pablo Quintanilla has reached WP1 with the sixth best time, 1’21 behind Michael Metge.
08:46 Metge on the attack No doubt frustrated by his penalty handed out by the race officials after his fine stage the day before, Michael Metge has decided to put in a big performance. The Frenchman is in the lead at WP1, 26 seconds ahead of his team leader Joan Barreda.
08:39 Metge, Brabec and Gonçalves also penalized Like their leader Joan Barreda, the official Honda riders Michael Metge, Ricky Brabec and Paulo Gonçalves have been heavily penalised following refuelling outside the authorised zone on stage four. This is a big blow for the world’s leading constructor in their attempt to beat KTM on the Dakar for first time in the last five years.
07:56 The bike race has started Matthias Walkner, Joan Barreda and Xavier de Soultrait have set off to tackle the 447 km awaiting them on the day’s special.
07:47 Barreda loses 1 hour! More drama in an edition of the Dakar which is offering no respite to the competitors: Joan Barreda, the (comfortable) leader of the general standings, has received a one hour penalty for refuelling outside the permitted zone. As a result, the Honda rider drops down to 7th place, 41 minutes behind the new leader Pablo Quintanilla. The Spaniard has it all to do again, which should make for some spectacular riding.
07:39 The (many) withdrawals of the day After an already very difficult third day for the competitors, the fourth stage decimated their ranks even further. In the bike category Thierry Bethys, David Megre, Toby Price, Walter Terblanche, Alessandro Botturi, Rodney Faggotter, Jorge Lacunza, Ronald ter Beek, Armand Monléon and Jurgen van den Goorbergh had to drop out. As for the quads, Josef Macháček and Pablo Luis Novara will not start today. In the car race Stefano Marrini, Yazeed Al-Rajhi, Ebert Dollevoet and Carlos Sainz all fell victim to the terrible 4th stage.
07:23 Walkner faces a new challenge Matthias Walkner will be at the start of the special in several minutes time. For the first time, the Austrian will open the way on the Dakar.
10:04 Walkner turns back! Matthias Walkner now has a chasm between himself and his rivals, but even though he was on the right track, the Austrian has mysteriously changed direction! What an incredible start to the special!
10:01 Quintanilla back on track Pablo Quintanilla has returned to the correct route on the special, but it is another catastrophe for Joan Barreda, who is now five kilometres from the right track and has been followed by Ricky Brabec.
09:58 Van Beveren also in dire straits After a quick start to the special, Adrien Van Beveren has fallen into the same trap as his rivals and has got lost after approximately 147 km.
09:55 De Soultrait and Quintanilla still going wrong Pablo Quintanilla is still following the wrong track and is getting further away from the correct route. The case is even worse for Xavier de Soultrait and Michael Metge, who are more than five kilometres away from where they should be. Joan Barreda is almost back on track after having lost plenty of time.
09:52 A big gap possible for Walkner Opening the way today, Matthias Walkner is the only rider to have not made a mistake in his choice of track. The Austrian could build a big gap between himself and all his rivals!
09:48 Barreda lost, Svitko and Quintanilla following More drama on the Dakar: Joan Barreda has turned back looking for the right track and after Metge and De soultrait, now the general standings leader Pablo Quintanilla and Stefan Svitko have made the same mistake as Barreda to get themselves lost.
09:38 Barreda, Metge and De soultrait get lost! Joan Barreda has gone astray from the correct route by several kilometres. Michael Metge and Xavier de Soultrait have followed him and made the same mistake.
09:33 All over for Zongshen Thierry Bethys was the last representative of the Chinese constructor Zongshen, which is participating in its first Dakar. However, the brand’s debut hopes went up in smoke, because the Frenchman, who completed his first five Dakars, could do nothing but drop out of the race after his machine caught fire and burned on the fourth stage.
09:22 Van Beveren closes in Adrien Van Beveren trails his countryman Michael Metge by only 37 seconds at WP1, and is right behind Joan Barreda, making this a promising start to the special for a rider still looking for his first stage victory on the Dakar.
09:11 Sanz bides her time Laia Sanz, who is about to start the special, is having a discrete start to the Dakar for the moment. The young lady occupies 24th position in the general standings, 1 hour and 26 minutes behind Pablo Quintanilla. However, the official KTM rider knows that there is still a long way to go on the Dakar and she has not made the slightest mistake so far.
08:56 Quintanilla trails by 1’21 The new rally leader Pablo Quintanilla has reached WP1 with the sixth best time, 1’21 behind Michael Metge.
08:46 Metge on the attack No doubt frustrated by his penalty handed out by the race officials after his fine stage the day before, Michael Metge has decided to put in a big performance. The Frenchman is in the lead at WP1, 26 seconds ahead of his team leader Joan Barreda.
08:39 Metge, Brabec and Gonçalves also penalized Like their leader Joan Barreda, the official Honda riders Michael Metge, Ricky Brabec and Paulo Gonçalves have been heavily penalised following refuelling outside the authorised zone on stage four. This is a big blow for the world’s leading constructor in their attempt to beat KTM on the Dakar for first time in the last five years.
07:56 The bike race has started Matthias Walkner, Joan Barreda and Xavier de Soultrait have set off to tackle the 447 km awaiting them on the day’s special.
07:47 Barreda loses 1 hour! More drama in an edition of the Dakar which is offering no respite to the competitors: Joan Barreda, the (comfortable) leader of the general standings, has received a one hour penalty for refuelling outside the permitted zone. As a result, the Honda rider drops down to 7th place, 41 minutes behind the new leader Pablo Quintanilla. The Spaniard has it all to do again, which should make for some spectacular riding.
07:39 The (many) withdrawals of the day After an already very difficult third day for the competitors, the fourth stage decimated their ranks even further. In the bike category Thierry Bethys, David Megre, Toby Price, Walter Terblanche, Alessandro Botturi, Rodney Faggotter, Jorge Lacunza, Ronald ter Beek, Armand Monléon and Jurgen van den Goorbergh had to drop out. As for the quads, Josef Macháček and Pablo Luis Novara will not start today. In the car race Stefano Marrini, Yazeed Al-Rajhi, Ebert Dollevoet and Carlos Sainz all fell victim to the terrible 4th stage.
07:23 Walkner faces a new challenge Matthias Walkner will be at the start of the special in several minutes time. For the first time, the Austrian will open the way on the Dakar.
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Brabec may be having some issues finding WP3
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Based on the bike chaos, this should be an interesting day for the cars too.
10:17 De Soultrait, Metge and Svitko pay a hefty price With gaps from speedy stage leader Sam Sunderland of 28 minutes for Xavier de Soultrait, 32 for Michael Metge and 33 for Stefan Svitko, the three riders have paid a hefty price for taking a long time to rediscover the right track.
10:14 Quintanilla trails by 16’34 Pablo Quintanilla’s mistake has cost him dear: he now trails the soar-away stage leader Sam Sunderland by 16’34 at WP3.
10:12 Walkner almost 10 minutes behind at WP3 After having perfectly negotiated the start of the special as all his rivals got lost, Matthias Walkner also went astray after 168 km and had to change direction, which is a pity for the Austrian because he was set to strike a big blow against his adversaries.
10:09 Sunderland takes the lead at WP3 Fairing better than the other bikers so far, Sam Sunderland has soared ahead of his rivals to reach WP3 with the best time, 4’32 ahead of Paulo Gonçalves and 7’47 in front of Adrien Van Beveren.
10:17 De Soultrait, Metge and Svitko pay a hefty price With gaps from speedy stage leader Sam Sunderland of 28 minutes for Xavier de Soultrait, 32 for Michael Metge and 33 for Stefan Svitko, the three riders have paid a hefty price for taking a long time to rediscover the right track.
10:14 Quintanilla trails by 16’34 Pablo Quintanilla’s mistake has cost him dear: he now trails the soar-away stage leader Sam Sunderland by 16’34 at WP3.
10:12 Walkner almost 10 minutes behind at WP3 After having perfectly negotiated the start of the special as all his rivals got lost, Matthias Walkner also went astray after 168 km and had to change direction, which is a pity for the Austrian because he was set to strike a big blow against his adversaries.
10:09 Sunderland takes the lead at WP3 Fairing better than the other bikers so far, Sam Sunderland has soared ahead of his rivals to reach WP3 with the best time, 4’32 ahead of Paulo Gonçalves and 7’47 in front of Adrien Van Beveren.
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Damn
That was scary even watching on the couch...
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10:38 Sunderland still leads at WP4
Super Sam Sunderland is still the solid stage leader at WP4. The only rider to have skilfully followed the route to the letter since the start of the special, the excellent English rider now boasts a lead of 4’02 over Paulo Gonçalves and 6’58 over Adrien Van Beveren.
Super Sam Sunderland is still the solid stage leader at WP4. The only rider to have skilfully followed the route to the letter since the start of the special, the excellent English rider now boasts a lead of 4’02 over Paulo Gonçalves and 6’58 over Adrien Van Beveren.
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Joan Barreda has lost 37 minutes after going astray after 147 km. This is another big blow following the one-hour penalty he received yesterday evening
What a high contrast to previous South America Dakars. I all ready get used to that if gap on stage is more than 5 minutes it's a huge gap. And here we go now...
When I was watching preview and listening to Coma on the difficulties of navigation this year I didn't believe him.
How I was wrong and how exciting this race all ready
What a high contrast to previous South America Dakars. I all ready get used to that if gap on stage is more than 5 minutes it's a huge gap. And here we go now...
When I was watching preview and listening to Coma on the difficulties of navigation this year I didn't believe him.
How I was wrong and how exciting this race all ready
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I really think the difficulty fosters a never-give-up mentality when the leader one day loses an hour the next day. There is no telling who will be leading in another week, and I love that! Kudos to Coma and the ASO.
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The day's stage will now finish at the end of the first portion, after 219 km. The competitors will not start the second portion of the special after the neutralised zone, because the tracks are no longer negotiable due to the poor weather conditions present on the way to Oruro.
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After I saw those flooding pictures I wondered what the course would be like.
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Why is Yazeed showing as a starter? Showing 7th at WP2
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Hirvonen must have got stuck somewhere