Desert Trucks At Chula Vista

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I was asked by the powers-that-be at CORR to see what you guys would think of desert trucks running at the Chula vista track. I've been asked to see what I can organize to get this off the ground. Here's what has been proposed so far.
You need to have previously raced in a sanctoned body (score, mdr, more, bitd, etc).
There will be two groups racing and the division will be as follows, 1400 and 7 open race in the same group. 1450 and 7s in another group.
The track will be different than the last rounds with the possibility of some very challenging (but short) desert sections as well as most of the short-course track.
I know there are many, many ways of trying to classify all the entrants, but this is the best and most fair way of breaking them down. Please remember that if you havent raced before, you will not be allowed to race here as your first race.
This will NOT be a CORR event, but a seperate organization specifically designated to organize these classes at the Chula Vista (and possibly other west coast) track.
Please post comments and questions as the track owners are very interested to see the response. The bigger and better, the more likely it will happen.
 

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i think it sounds sweet. i would suggest a very clear deffinition of the class 1400 and 1450 split. aside from that what you have sounds good.
 

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sounds great!!

Just make sure one of the classes is a completely open class, very little limitations. Try to avoid limiting the motor to just naturally aspirated. It is significantlly cheeper for someone to run a blown (turboed or supercharged) motor.
 

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As was posted, if you have previously entered (in this case MDR) then you would be allowed to run. The rules are very open. We would be elliminating a huge group of very capable trucks by only allowing 7 or 7s rules so it is open to just about any trucks that have raced in any 4 of these classes. Fatnbald, If you find a detailed decription of the difference between classes, let all of us know. 1400 and 1450 are seperated by that drivers own perception of his, and his vehicle's, abilities.
 

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Greg said:
I was asked by the powers-that-be at CORR to see what you guys would think of desert trucks running at the Chula vista track. I've been asked to see what I can organize to get this off the ground. Here's what has been proposed so far.
You need to have previously raced in a sanctoned body (score, mdr, more, bitd, etc).
There will be two groups racing and the division will be as follows, 1400 and 7 open race in the same group. 1450 and 7s in another group.
The track will be different than the last rounds with the possibility of some very challenging (but short) desert sections as well as most of the short-course track.
I know there are many, many ways of trying to classify all the entrants, but this is the best and most fair way of breaking them down. Please remember that if you havent raced before, you will not be allowed to race here as your first race.
This will NOT be a CORR event, but a seperate organization specifically designated to organize these classes at the Chula Vista (and possibly other west coast) track.
Please post comments and questions as the track owners are very interested to see the response. The bigger and better, the more likely it will happen.


Greg, PLEASE Dont take this wrong but who are you and who are the powers to be at CORR that want this info. Rick, Jim Baldwin?? Is this a legit request for interest level to race TT at CORR? Or a someone who knows soneone who talked to someone who overheard someone say there gonna race TT's at CORR...
 

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That would be great. The single most complaint I heard after the May race was that there was way too much down time at this years race compared to last year. My own personal experience was that there was more excitement last year with class 1 buggies and a few TT's thundering around out here! The class 7 races had a ton of action too so it would great to see it again. I hope they can pull it off and have it be fair so we can get more race teams out to play.
 

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As of now there is really no talk of the TT/ Class 1 thing again. This is for the 7/7s/1400/1450 vehicles only (unless you want to run your TT in 1400 this Sat. in Lucerne). As for who I am, just some guy that likes watching races. And no, this is not hearsay. I was contacted by CORR management because of my experience in organizing racing with these types of trucks.
 

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matt_helton said:
"who is greg?" oh man!! lol

greg is no other that the world famous shock satan, titan specialist, ROR master and all around off road guru!! :)

I prefer to think of him as Jen's husband. LOL!

I can't tellyou how many people I've talked to who have personally sent in emails or phone calls asking to bring back at least the Class 7 guys, if not all the desert classes. They need the filler between pro classes. As bitchin' as that track/venue was, and how fun it was to race there, you can count me in - even if it's not CORR or on TV.

A warning from someone who actually raced at Chula Vista last year: It was complete and total chaos with 2 limited classes in 7... The possibility of having a ginormous cluster f**k with it wide open is large. Mark my words. We as drivers need to understand this going in, or it ain't gonna work.

NO rules enforcement, NO consistency with penalties/yellows, NO follow through, NO posted results, CHANGED posted results, ADVERTISED PURSE reduced to fraction... AND THEN SPLIT OVER TWO CLASSES. I figured all of this plus the inexperience of most of the racers left a bad taste in their mouths. I know it did me, but then I'm replaceable.

It was fun, I was grateful for the opportunity, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat, but it really was nothing more than a glorified tuff-truck race.
 

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matt_helton said:
"who is greg?" oh man!! lol


greg is no other than the world famous shock satan, titan specialist, ROR master and all around off road guru!! :)

Sorry, he doesnt play with prerunner kids anymore... We will try to get him out more..
 

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This sounds like an awesome opprotunity to just get more exposure for us small time racers. Even if its not CORR, and its NOT on TV, and its just a glorified tuff trucks, its getting more seat time, and more people checking out other vehicles. It can only be good, and can fill in gaps during the real CORR races.

Count me in!

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This will be much more structured than the last time but will have pretty open rules. the point is to get trucks/racers out there. It looks as though alot of guys are interested so we will update/change as it is required. I want to make this some great racing for everyone involved (drivers to spectators) so I will do what is needed to make that happen.
 

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AWSOME!!

Just what I wanted to hear. I have been to 3 of the last 4 rounds of racing at Chula Vista and they were all great. The last event though seemed like it was missing something. There was a almost nothing going on on the track from 8am till 1pm. It’s such a great venue and a fun track it’s a shame to let it be empty. I think earlier races will build up excitement for later races, and get many spectators there earlier.

I think the rules will work fine for the first event, and possibly a few more, but as it becomes more popular there might be a need for more precise regulations.

As of now as I understand the rules to be that if you have raced 7 you are in the Desert Unlimited Truck class and 7s is in the Desert Modified Truck class. If you have raced in 1400 then you are in Desert Unlimited Truck class and 1450 is in the Desert Modified Truck class. These are not the names of the classes for Chula Vista but you get my point. For those of you who don’t follow MDR or MORE 1400/1450 are the sportsman truck classes and have very open rules, but generally small budgets. One rule I would like to see added is that if you have a V8 you are automatically in the Desert Unlimited Truck class. Greg I always liked the rules you had at the ROR, there were 4 classes but each class was evenly matched.

How ever it is done this will be extremely fun and draw a more spectators. Thanks to CORR and Greg Gagnon for making this happen.

For those of you that don’t know Greg he and his wife Jen ran the Rialto OffRoad Raceway (ROR). Greg and Jen started Inland Prerunners, now United Prerunners truck club back in the 90’s. They are heavily into offroad racing, desert and short course, and have worked for/with CORR in Chula Vista for all 4 rounds. Greg is the real deal and I assure you he will work his butt off, like he always does, to make this a great event.
 

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sorry to be vague.
i am well aware of the lack of a class defining set of rules for the sportsman and pro-sportsman classes. there are linked v/8 trucks still entering and competing in the 1450 class. i was thinking maybe if a line was drawn now there would be no debate later.
but what do i know.

Greg said:
As was posted, if you have previously entered (in this case MDR) then you would be allowed to run. The rules are very open. We would be elliminating a huge group of very capable trucks by only allowing 7 or 7s rules so it is open to just about any trucks that have raced in any 4 of these classes. Fatnbald, If you find a detailed decription of the difference between classes, let all of us know. 1400 and 1450 are seperated by that drivers own perception of his, and his vehicle's, abilities.
 

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Greg Fatnbald said:
I know a lot of the 1400 guys don't agree with it, but MORE has some rules in place to split the 1400 and 1450 classes. I'm not saying they are the way to go, but it is something to look at for a start.
 

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i would love to see the desert classes come back, even if it is just a grown-up version of ROR or tuff trucks. gives us a chance to dice it up in front of a large group of spectators. more exposure is what we always look for. only suggestion.... follow MDR when it comes to splitting 1400/1450.

...hopefully this event happens, it definently has alot of potential.
 

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IMO, at a short course style course, links/leafs have no real advantage. In barstow, over 4ft whoops for 30+mi, links do have their advantage. but i personally liked having leafs for tufftruck and ROR type events, and definitly need a sway bar(Blitzkrieg motorsports is offering a new one for linked trucks) and shorter limit straps...
 

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I personally wouldn't be competitive with enough of the 1400 trucks in my wildest dreams to waste my time. But I do know two guys that race 7 open with VORRA, (Austin and John) and aren't online that would love to. Their trucks won't be back together until August timeframe but I spoke with Austin Monday night and we talked about this. They most likely won't be competitive either but are always down for racing.
 
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