Longevity is key, I was hopeful with lucas but after hearing the first year woes and the costs associated with them everyone read the writing on the wall this year.. I think what is coming will be long term provided the racers/tracks are happy. Its a great fit for all parties associated and they have a long standing history in motorsports and they have some big name sponsors they'll be bringing to the table and more especially with UTV's.It's a positive to fans who want to continue to watch races and have a series to follow.
I understand where DailyPedal is coming from here. It would be great to hear a long-term solution, preferably with a title sponsor contract. The Lucas Midwest League announcement was more of a band-aid that was always going to be transitional one way or another; now we're waiting to find out if it's another transitional solution or if something more permanent will be in place. Competitors want this too, or so I'd surmise from what social media posts I've seen and the various commitments and decommitments to participate.
But, under the circumstances, I'll just be glad to hear that there's a series and a sanctioning body, and I'll be delighted if there's a decent sponsor attached.
Our events in the middle of nowhere have tremendous attendance and midwest series could never get "big markets" to work, so this argument is no good.Like it or not, many of the MidWest event location, are...how do I gently say this...are in the middle of “No Where”, as far as Sponsors are concerned.
Not disagreeing with some of your points. Hardcores racing people like us, will go to the race, wherever it is...and love every second of it.Our events in the middle of nowhere have tremendous attendance and midwest series could never get "big markets" to work, so this argument is no good.
Crandon gets somewhere in the ballpark of 15,000 people per day of racing across its two events. Bark River is probably in the 8,000 range, and Lena--a FIRST TIME SPORTSMAN-ONLY RACE IN A NEW VENUE--had around 5,000 each day this year (per my own estimations).
Charlotte (next to an established NASCAR facility) and Joliet (next to an established NASCAR facility) didn't touch 5,000 people in a single day unless I'm grossly misremembering. (EDIT: maybe Joliet the year Pastrana was there, but I don't really remember that weekend much)
ERX (45ish minutes from the Twin Cities) is on its way to good attendance but for the love of mud, please have your two days of racing Saturday and Sunday, not Friday and Saturday.
I mean ... it couldn't be much worse than you've have the past two years could it ?If they go back to adapting LOORRS rules for Pro Trucks, you can say goodbye to Pro 2/Pro Lite. But, if they're more UTV focused, then I can see that not really mattering to them.
Be interested to know what their standpoint is toward the sportsman racers.
I do not think they will ignore the pro trucks. If they do it will not work and they know that. Is lucas still changing their pro2 rules in 2021 ?I mean ... it couldn't be much worse than you've have the past two years could it ?
My experience with the group is everyone gets a voice and they do what the can to remedy things and will at least explain why things are how they are , itll be the same with the PRO classes. I can't see them changing the rules backwards from what the midwest was the past 3 years when it comes to pro lite/2/4 especially when the numbers are just starting to grow.
I think there's going to be a lot of focus on the UTV's more so then in the past - which many hate and gripe about but I don't see ford, chevy, dodge, toyota, nissan paying for advertising at the tracks like Yamaha/Polaris does. To me its a viable marketing and funding tool to support the classes with the numbers that will generate better payouts as a whole for the midwest.
They're not going to ignore them - no where did I mean that in my post if it came off that way.I do not think they will ignore the pro trucks. If they do it will not work and they know that. Is lucas still changing their pro2 rules in 2021 ?
Pro 2 is going to continue to grow , it would be ideal if you could come up with a rule set for pro lite that would do the same , pro 4 is tough because of the dollars involved.. but if you throw out a payout thats similar to crandon in the fall at every round you would be able to grow those classes exponentially.Can't imagine Lucas would walk back their commitment to the new Pro-2 ruleset. It's good for both series and the reason they didn't move to it whole hog, as I understood it, was to allow teams that have equipment that fits the existing rules to use that. Teams have been planning for that move, though, so Lucas going back to the more expensive ruleset would be insane.
I mean I'm just a fan but the truck counts in Pro 2 in the midwest speaks for itself. Not exactly crowded, but it attracted a fair number of competitors that wouldn't have a chance to bother otherwise, and the action was excellent. They're not as powerful as they used to be, but they've still got a lot of HP and clear a lot of air off of the jumps. It's great and making the podium really means something. No reason to go back to unlimited.