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facebook vs. RDC

gwizz

Well-Known Member
eh far better of compartmentalizing this type of thing. think of it this way, face book is too public with a third party controlling it. censorship and getting your self flagged or shut down could result from something completely unrelated to this and vice versa.

"oh look at these off road assholes" "flags everything" "posts you up on their social media eco warrior account" "now they flag everything"
now you wake up to a message alerting you that content you posted violates community standards... and boom your done for a short to long set amount of time, but instead of this just being an offroad forum its your personal face book account. never mind something so "colorful" as the purple section.

the fact that face book attempts to leverage users on moral issues is reason alone to conscientiously use it less or ideally not at all.

realistically \ I failed high school / face book, its time people use forums more. that being said what makes or breaks a forum is how "nazi" the people running it are. the looser the better within reason.
 
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djdrew8

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I live in the Midwest and don't get to come to actual races much. Only been to the 1000 once and I was hooked. So my view is probably a little different than most, having to get majority of my fix online. That being said, for me, being on the outside looking in....from a distance, I depend on and appreciate both forms of media, news/info for different reasons. Several already previously stated here. I definitely watch on social media/FB, to get quick updates. Thoroughly enjoy Fish's coverage. And then there are the individual drivers/teams FB pages, which you can get some more personal responses and detailed preruns and post race reports. The BIGGEST difference for me in social media and RDC, are the discussions, and the back and forth insight on all different kinds of stories/subjects. People actually type out a detailed response on RDC. And because we see many of the same names, for me, you "get to know" those names/avatars, and understand the sincerity(or sarcasm) behind the post. I really enjoy reading through ALL of the discussions, because of the many different views and the directions they go, but still able to follow all of them. It isn't all rainbows and unicorns, but the detail is what hooks me. Also, the forum sections, as well as threads, makes it easy to find what you want to read more of. The website is easy to navigate and covers all the bases. I think on FB it is just the opposite most of the time. Most people are on FB looking at multiple stories/news feed, and scrolling quickly when it's convenient, People post short answers, and mostly filled with little content, and discussions are all over the place, and don't follow rhyme or reason sometimes. People respond to something that may be way up the page. Difference here is, most will quote someone to respond directly, and people's attention/response is more concentrated, without the distraction of all the "static overload" on FB. MUCH easier to follow different conversations. Also, unless I go looking for it, coverage gets lost in FB news-feed of other useless crap. So....if I didn't ramble on, short answer would be, we need BOTH! I've only been on here since 2007, and if I had one wish for RDC, it would be to bring back better race day coverage. The race day discussion used to be great, with stories unfolding, views and analysis from keyboard warriors and armchair quarterbacks. Now, the audience has thinned, because there are multiple outlets people are tuning into. But, I also know that many different heads/egos/money/sponsors etc., wanted to go many different directions, and things never stay the same. I think all the forms of coverage are beneficial to growing the sport. If there was only one choice for me to view....RDC hands down would be my go to source, simply because of the content . Just my $.02.
 

51rcr

Well-Known Member
Apparently the attention span for podcasts is getting short. Mike Rowes sponsored ads popping up on social media plugging 10 min pod casts haha.
 

Klaus

Administrator
Apparently the attention span for podcasts is getting short. Mike Rowes sponsored ads popping up on social media plugging 10 min pod casts haha.
Same with Joe Rogan. The Original format its 1-3hours of high grade content, but there are Short clips on youtube as well. I enjoy both.
 

green787

Well-Known Member
Nobody is getting it.... My FRIENDS can READ what I post on RDC's facebook page.... If I carried on this long about something so trivial, they would conclude that I had lost my mind, or was coming out gay.....
 

sb4pro

Well-Known Member
I live in the Midwest and don't get to come to actual races much. Only been to the 1000 once and I was hooked. So my view is probably a little different than most, having to get majority of my fix online. That being said, for me, being on the outside looking in....from a distance, I depend on and appreciate both forms of media, news/info for different reasons. Several already previously stated here. I definitely watch on social media/FB, to get quick updates. Thoroughly enjoy Fish's coverage. And then there are the individual drivers/teams FB pages, which you can get some more personal responses and detailed preruns and post race reports. The BIGGEST difference for me in social media and RDC, are the discussions, and the back and forth insight on all different kinds of stories/subjects. People actually type out a detailed response on RDC. And because we see many of the same names, for me, you "get to know" those names/avatars, and understand the sincerity(or sarcasm) behind the post. I really enjoy reading through ALL of the discussions, because of the many different views and the directions they go, but still able to follow all of them. It isn't all rainbows and unicorns, but the detail is what hooks me. Also, the forum sections, as well as threads, makes it easy to find what you want to read more of. The website is easy to navigate and covers all the bases. I think on FB it is just the opposite most of the time. Most people are on FB looking at multiple stories/news feed, and scrolling quickly when it's convenient, People post short answers, and mostly filled with little content, and discussions are all over the place, and don't follow rhyme or reason sometimes. People respond to something that may be way up the page. Difference here is, most will quote someone to respond directly, and people's attention/response is more concentrated, without the distraction of all the "static overload" on FB. MUCH easier to follow different conversations. Also, unless I go looking for it, coverage gets lost in FB news-feed of other useless crap. So....if I didn't ramble on, short answer would be, we need BOTH! I've only been on here since 2007, and if I had one wish for RDC, it would be to bring back better race day coverage. The race day discussion used to be great, with stories unfolding, views and analysis from keyboard warriors and armchair quarterbacks. Now, the audience has thinned, because there are multiple outlets people are tuning into. But, I also know that many different heads/egos/money/sponsors etc., wanted to go many different directions, and things never stay the same. I think all the forms of coverage are beneficial to growing the sport. If there was only one choice for me to view....RDC hands down would be my go to source, simply because of the content . Just my $.02.
Totally agree with you drew about getting familiar with screen names and avatars in fact if anything I find racers on here THEN see if they have an Instagram account . Going to Crandon as much as I do I it’s funny cause if I tell a racer my real name they don’t know me but as soon as I mention my screen names. ( sb4pro here or mj speed on Instagram ) they’re like oh ok now I know you . I’ve met lots of the racers and industry people and some have even become personal friends
 

dan200

#BSF200
I’ve met lots of the racers and industry people and some have even become personal friends
whenever I meet someone I know from RDC I almost always say to them

“I thought you would be taller”

Exception to that-
I was bench racing at my trailer with this skinny kid one time. Talked for quite a while. He never said his name. Then at the end of our conversation I asked him his name and he told me it was Robby. I immediately knew who he was to me “Offroad racer 516” from RDC. (A guy who I have had plenty of arguments with here on this forum).

I then say “oh! I know you. Your that guy on the race-dezert who is always wrong”.
And he says “yea, and you’re Pat Daileys butt buddy”

We’ve been friends ever since
 

Klaus

Administrator
whenever I meet someone I know from RDC I almost always say to them

“I thought you would be taller”

Exception to that-
I was bench racing at my trailer with this skinny kid one time. Talked for quite a while. He never said his name. Then at the end of our conversation I asked him his name and he told me it was Robby. I immediately knew who he was to me “Offroad racer 516” from RDC. (A guy who I have had plenty of arguments with here on this forum).

I then say “oh! I know you. Your that guy on the race-dezert who is always wrong”.
And he says “yea, and you’re Pat Daileys butt buddy”

We’ve been friends ever since
My first morning RDC read story delivered. Thank you Dan.

I have heard similar stories from some of the purple regulars. In purple the discussions get heated at times. Emotions out of control, kind of discussions. But after rounds of verbal abuse some of them actually make up and that happens track side.

Awesome.
 
Mark Zuckerburg wouldn't start a thread like this. RDC FTW!
 

jon coleman

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i miss good ole days of only info was dusty times, chris economaki nat.speed sport news ,sdor, cycle news, that was it.soooo much simpler
 

dan200

#BSF200
My first morning RDC read story delivered. Thank you Dan.

I have heard similar stories from some of the purple regulars. In purple the discussions get heated at times. Emotions out of control, kind of discussions. But after rounds of verbal abuse some of them actually make up and that happens track side.

Awesome.
Some old crusty dude comes up to my trailer at KOH this year and starts blabbing about “unions are great”and crap about how he is the greatest wiring guy in the world and I’m a bit confused until he says he is ”green 787”. I called him some names and he did the same to me and that’s how we became friends.


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isdtbower

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Got an autonomous vehicle, semi self-driving, something-star, navigation, Google, or any other devise that is attached to a server or the cloud? They are collecting and selling your information. That is their business model. Now that the FB fiasco is out in the open, some of the OEM's are starting to question privacy before they get caught up in the same negativity. (You know that fine print section that most check to get the offered convenience)
 

green787

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Some old crusty dude comes up to my trailer at KOH this year and starts blabbing about “unions are great”and crap about how he is the greatest wiring guy in the world and I’m a bit confused until he says he is ”green 787”. I called him some names and he did the same to me and that’s how we became friends.


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That's right,...but I think we are both missing something.... :D:)o_O:cool::cool::cool::cool:
 

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johndjmix

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I’ll never do Facebook, even if they paid for all my racing (well, ok maybe then I would!). But RDC is so much more of a tight knit community.

—John
 

jon coleman

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ill race for facebook, most off roaders ive run across are worse than crack addicts..., getting seat time is a mutha#&;$#@
 

Radiobirdman32

Well-Known Member
This turned out to be a long post. But we’re in a forum where that’s acceptable right?

Not many have answered Klaus’ first question, "How would you reply?" My reply would be that RDC and social media are two completely different things, although the RDC forum can be considered “social”, each has its place in the world. Some people only use social media, some only use forums and some use both. It’s been that way for many years now and won’t change any time soon. But Facebook will eventually go the way of Myspace and then the next new thing will be the rage. I can already see it happening. My kids are on IG and Snap chat. Ask them what Facebook is and they will probably say it’s something that old people use…

A few people in this thread have mentioned similar opinions as mine regarding the speed of news traveling on social media and how it’s a good place to find something out quick. And how forums are still valuable in regards to keeping discussions alive and not being pushed down the feed and forgotten about (like how FB and IG work). Yes older forum threads get pushed down as the discussion dies off, but it’s easy enough to bring them back to the top if people want to continue the discussion, post more photos or videos, etc. And allot easier to search for than something posted on any type of social media app.

And then there’s the attention span that most of us have developed over the years thanks to all of this tech. When I post a highlight video from a race I could make it 10-20 minutes long if I wanted to. But even 2-3 minutes is too long for most people these days. I’m guilty of not even watching all of a 30 second video sometimes.

I know a couple of people that used to post allot more here in the forum but have been using IG more over the last year or so. One friend has been posting some great stories about racing in the past, building trucks, prepping trucks and some history about products and tech in the off road industry. The problem with the IG platform for those stories is that it’s limited to a certain number of characters per post and you have to split them up into multiple posts. Instagram (and FB) deliver whatever it thinks you want to see in whatever random order its algorithm feels like. So you have to visit the persons profile and click on each post to read it all in order if you really want to spend the time to do that (back to the low attention span…). And IG limits the number of photos or videos you can post.

I read recently that IG announced that they are going to test out hiding likes from the feed and it will most likely be implemented throughout the platform soon. Their reason for doing that is to get people engaged with the content instead of just worrying about how many “likes” they are getting. I’m curious to see how that works out.

I understand how some people and companies want to use FB and IG to build a brand for themselves or grow their companies social presence. The RDC and DP social accounts have a good amount of followers and likes themselves… But what happens when those social media platforms die off and that brand or business you built around it is left with nothing. I’m sure some will adapt to whatever is new but that won’t happen for everyone.

And let’s not forget that RDC has become much more than just a forum over the last decade or more. Our classifieds are very busy with new ads uploaded daily. Our homepage has event coverage, features and PR’s. We have an up to date calendar and a new race results section here in the forum. All much different than social media and the way content is shared there.

I find myself posting less and less personal photos and info on FB and IG and mostly use it for business. I think Social media has its place but it can also be an extreme time waster if you aren’t careful. It is a great place for catching up with family and friends when time allows.
I'd like to point out that Curtis does an awesome job of covering nearly every event out there.( I wonder how he gets around so quickly. ) He always presents great photos, great narrative and all from an objective point of view. Thank you CG for your effort at keeping us in the loop of races that we are not able to run or attend.
 
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