I see... I'm old school.... put a lot of crush, bend, and I guess shear in the design of my roll cages.. You think I should glob everything into one triangulated point like Kinetic Camburg does....??? Too stiff IMO.... Rip your jugular right out of your neck.... Seen it at Laughlin.... One endo... dead driver... I bend the tubing, where others triangulate....Tubes need to line up with the other tubes for the load paths to continue. When they are offset like this they are going to shear/bend the tube in the middle.