L.A Times Reports Wildlife and off-roaders gain room to roam in California’s new desert protection act. Feinstein and CA govt aren't Satan?

AZ7000'

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Bro_Gill

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Uh, it wasn't really working together. They added hundreds of thousands of acres to the Wilderness designation. We changed the name of existing off road areas. We 'won' nothing in this.
 

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Green New Deal, take everything away from the people. Seems like everything already is government regulated or run. But, there is hope. Keep the minority socialist out of office. Vote moderate. Good luck with CA. Can't help you since I don't live there.
 

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a third of all american welfare recipients live in the golden state.gotta go, need to work harder so others dont have to
 

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Don't kid yourselves, Dianne Feinstein is "Satan" she is 100% pro baby killing, heavily invested in Chinese steel industry, and other crooked practices such as the HighSPeed rail bullshit project that recently flopped

the article here on the off roading bit
Wildlife and off-roaders gain room to roam in California’s new desert protection act

In the latest round of a 25-year battle to save the California desert, House lawmakers approved a sweeping conservation bill Tuesday that designates more terrain for wildlife and off-roaders alike and sets the stage for a final signature by President Trump.

The California Desert Protection and Recreation Act,
which does not come with funding, completed efforts that Sen. Dianne Feinstein started in 1994 to resolve conflicts among conservationists, off-road vehicle riders, miners, cattle ranchers, hunters, military training grounds and renewable energy interests.

The act, which was part of a package of conservation bills affecting states nationwide, creates 375,000 acres of new wilderness areas including rugged mountains, Joshua tree forests, dry lake beds and petroglyphs. It also designates 75 miles of waterways — including White Water Creek in the San Bernardino Mountains — as wild and scenic rivers. (Wilderness areas means NO OHV)

If signed by the president, the law would add 35,292 acres to Death Valley National Park (my question is, will this 35k acres include BIG DUNE in Amargosa?) and 4,543 acres to Joshua Tree National Park. It would also establish an 18,600-acre Alabama Hills National Scenic Area on the east side of the Sierra Nevada and an 81,800-acre Vinagre Wash Special Management Area in Imperial County.

The act also makes permanent six existing off-highway vehicle, or OHV, sites covering more than 200,000 acres. The first national network of off-highway vehicle recreation areas includes Dumont Dunes, El Mirage, Rasor, Stoddard Valley, Johnson Valley and Spangler Hills.

Plans call for expanding the boundaries of some of those areas. The Spangler Hills area east of the city of Ridgecrest, about 154 miles north of Los Angeles, for example, will grow by 30,260 acres, or about 49%.

“I’ve been fighting for this for so long it seems almost too good to be true,” said Randy Banis, a longtime advocate of the off-roading community. “The overall health of the desert will improve, and codified OHV recreation will be more sustainable going forward.”
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ps and children born in the united states line of crap Feinstein is pushing here, is anchor babies, the constitution clearly states that parent MUST BE US a naturalized citizen, to gain birthright citizenship.
 

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I feel like this is kind of a glass half full/half empty kind of thing and your view of it is dependent upon your disposition. I would think it's a positive that existing OHV use areas are essentially "protected" as such now. At least we have that. And glass half full, its nice to see some expansion to a few of those areas as well. But if you're a glass half empty type, you probably feel like protecting what we already had anyway isn't really much of a "win" and the increase to space is offset by the further protection of a ton of more land that will be unavailable for off road use as well.

Seems like a bit of a mixed bag for me. I'm not really quite ready to hail Sen Feinstein here as all she really did was work to compromise versus overpower. If agreeing to let the "other side" have some crumbs is considered a noble act, I guess bravo to her.
 

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I call BULL poop, they will find a way to take more public land some where else.
Agreed. I mean that's basically what this "compromise" deal is right? It secures what was already OHV land and adds a bit in some places, but also ropes off a bunch more as protected.
 

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i read somewere that off road vehicles only tread on about.oo1% of cali. deZert, if true, what is the crisis?????
 

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Enviros get more wilderness, ohv gets to keep what they already have. That's a compromise? I've seen this in individuals. They have a skewed sense of fairness. "Fair" is when they come out ahead. It's not equal, but to them it's fair.
 

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12500 acres of cady mountains as a designated ohv area would have been a compromise for Johnson valley land grab
 

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Agreed. I mean that's basically what this "compromise" deal is right? It secures what was already OHV land and adds a bit in some places, but also ropes off a bunch more as protected.
Prich, the Spangler 'addition' only returns some of the land they took years ago. nothing new added. Stoddard Valley used to be 3 times the size it is now for OHV recreation. Johnson Valley was bigger. Dumont was much bigger. Every time we have won since about 1992, we have lost at winning.
 

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Prich, the Spangler 'addition' only returns some of the land they took years ago. nothing new added. Stoddard Valley used to be 3 times the size it is now for OHV recreation. Johnson Valley was bigger. Dumont was much bigger. Every time we have won since about 1992, we have lost at winning.
exactly.
 
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