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Just an example, google description of an organization I chaired. Read that abbreviated description in the photo at a minimum and think of the why not the off-road industry could do something similar.
 
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A lack of consistent funding perpetuates this issue. :(
 

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Most don't realize that when it comes to land use 'big users' off road, even the total recreation picture, is still small potatoes when compared to mineral extraction or Environmental 'care' How many folks from say, Vermont, will cut a check to help keep racing in Southern Nevada viable? Now how many people in Vermont will cut a check to the Sierra Club to protect the environment? See how that works? The environmental clubs have been using national funding levels to attack on the local level for decades now. They don't attack at the national level, they attack locally so the counter response is local. They started in California and are working their way east. The current proposal by the head of DOI to combine districts and decentralize management of land use is something that goes counter to the current system- Where giant lobbying groups with national funding pockets can ply decision makers with steak and lobster and hookers and blow and cash to get things they want done. 48 of the Senators who will have a part in the decision of how the land in Nevada is going to be used could care less about Nevada, but they sure as hell care about their own pockets. We need to push for more designated Open OHV areas on a National Level so it becomes a common standard in land use planning. We are getting killed on the local counter work from the national decision buyers.
 

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Most don't realize that when it comes to land use 'big users' off road, even the total recreation picture, is still small potatoes when compared to mineral extraction or Environmental 'care' How many folks from say, Vermont, will cut a check to help keep racing in Southern Nevada viable? Now how many people in Vermont will cut a check to the Sierra Club to protect the environment? See how that works? The environmental clubs have been using national funding levels to attack on the local level for decades now. They don't attack at the national level, they attack locally so the counter response is local. They started in California and are working their way east. The current proposal by the head of DOI to combine districts and decentralize management of land use is something that goes counter to the current system- Where giant lobbying groups with national funding pockets can ply decision makers with steak and lobster and hookers and blow and cash to get things they want done. 48 of the Senators who will have a part in the decision of how the land in Nevada is going to be used could care less about Nevada, but they sure as hell care about their own pockets. We need to push for more designated Open OHV areas on a National Level so it becomes a common standard in land use planning. We are getting killed on the local counter work from the national decision buyers.

Spot on! Escalate to DC and results happen and is great long term solution.
 

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Tonight was the 2017 SNORE year end awards and the overall champ got a check for $12,000 and he donated $6,000 of it towards this fight.

He also asked that everyone attend the Jan 17th meeting if we want any chance of keeping the Midnight track as well as ever racing on Apex again. Bring a friend and have him bring a friend. Post on social media and spread the word. If we lose these areas they will be gone for good.
 

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The Next BLM RMP meeting
January 17, 2018 – Heritage Park Senior Facility, 300 S. Racetrack Road, Henderson,
The meeting starts at 5PM and you don't have to be there at 5 but by 6:30PM to sign up to comment . The comment start at 7PM and you have 3 minutes and they cut you off after the time is up

Bullet points to comment on.
1 The secretary of the interior Stated on his 1st day of office that there needs to be more access on public lands for recreation and all Plans offered in the RMP restrict public access to public lands

2 None of the plans have any mitigation plans for loss of public land that was used by OHV recreation

3 None of the RMP plans have added any OHV open areas or expanded open areas for OHVs . OHV recreation is the fastest growing outdoor recreation and areas need to be set aside now for future use

4 changing trails from existing to designated would reduce OHV access and OHV opportunity's and be in conflict with the direction of the secretary of the interior

5 reducing OHV opportunity's would put more pressure on other areas and could have a negative impact on areas

6 OHV recreation is an 11 billion dollar industry and creates jobs. Reducing OHV opportunity's by reducing trails , closing areas and reducing seasons would have an negative economic effect

7 solar farms on public lands add to habitat destruction of the desert tortoise and should be built outside of tortoise habitat

8 Large solar farms add to the island heat effect with a large dark footprint

9 solar is much belter suited for roof top installations and is more efficient than massive solar farms miles from the power need

10 At this time the USFW can not prove that any of the current ACECs have increased wildlife population. Adding more would not be in the public's best interest

11 With over 85% of Nevada government owned closing off lands for wilderness would be a burden on Nevadans and counter productive

12 There needs to have a motorized travel plan set up before any RMP revision

13 No lands that are next to sensitive or used for OHV access should not be listed as disposal areas

14 In the scoping meetings the majority wanted more OHV access but all plans reduce OHV access

15 Restricting OHV recreation in rural community's will have a negative economic impact and hurt tourism
 

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whoops...last post was OLD meetings from a few months ago....

meetings are @ 5pm with public comments being taken @ 7pm...you have 3 minutes to state anything pertinent ....that's it



The public information meetings will be held at the following locations:

Tuesday, January 9, 2018 – Old Overton Gym, 353 W. Thomas Overton, Nevada 89040

Wednesday, January 10, 2018 – Mesquite City Council Chambers, 10 E. Mesquite Blvd, Mesquite, Nevada 89027

Thursday, January 11, 2018 – Santa Fe Station Hotel & Casino, 4949 N. Rancho Drive, Las Vegas, Nevada 89130

Tuesday, January 16, 2018 – Pahrump Nugget Hotel and Casino, 681 S. Hwy 160, Pahrump, Nevada 89048

Wednesday, January 17, 2018 – Heritage Park Senior Facility, 300 S. Racetrack Road, Henderson, Nevada 89015

Thursday, January 18, 2018 – Searchlight Community Center, 200 Michael Wendell Way, Searchlight, Nevada 89046

The public information meetings will be held from 5 p.m. - 8 p.m. on the day of each scheduled meeting. The meetings will begin with an open house format where participants can ask questions and visit various resource stations, with formal presentations at 5:15 p.m. and 6:15 p.m. The public will be able to verbally provide information beginning at 7:00 p.m. with a three minute time limit. Court reporters will be available to record verbal provided information.
 

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The Next BLM RMP meeting Please show up and support Desert racing
January 17, 2018 – Heritage Park Senior Facility, 300 S. Racetrack Road, Henderson,
The meeting starts at 5PM and you don't have to be there at 5 but by 6:30PM to sign up to comment . The comment start at 7PM and you have 3 minutes and they cut you off after the time is up
 

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TONIGHT is the last RMP meeting and the last time the off road community can show up in force to show that we do not want any changes to the current RMP. Let's see if the henderson side can do better then the north side.
Heritage Park Senior Facility, 300 S. Racetrack Road, Henderson,
The meeting starts at 5PM and you don't have to be there at 5 but by 6:30PM to sign up to comment . The comment start at 7PM and you have 3 minutes and they cut you off after the time is up
 

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TONIGHT is the last RMP meeting and the last time the off road community can show up in force to show that we do not want any changes to the current RMP. Let's see if the henderson side can do better then the north side.
Heritage Park Senior Facility, 300 S. Racetrack Road, Henderson,5pm to 8pm
 

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Turn out was great over 100 OHV supporters were there and the comment period was full and they stopped public comment . out of the speakers in public comment 14 were ohv supporters and 3 were not and that looked good. we did have some media also.
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You can still comment on line at E-mail: sndo_rmp_revision@blm.gov • Fax: (702) 515-5023
Funny thing was all the OHV supporters were against using public lands for solar in tortoise habitat and all the tree huggers were for it you see they want to protect the desert from us but not their solar
 

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Pahrump Meeting was good. I had my 3 minutes with points on washes and rocky connectors being a non issue with resource impact. MRAN was there with Bob Adams hitting a home run. We were in Majority. Let's see what precipitates. Always feels good to do your best and say your piece.
 

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We have in tell Feb 2 to get comments in on the RMP revision . Topics are ACECs ,solar and wind , wilderness and economics . Please take the time to send and email and inform the BLM that building large solar plants in tortoise habitat is not helping tortoise recovery . and let them know that ACECs have shown no positive inpact to wildlife and having more would be an economic burden
Public input requested for Revised Draft Resource Management Plan LAS VEGAS – The Bureau of Land Management requests public input for a Revised Draft Southern Nevada District Resource Management Plan/Environmental Impact Statement. The BLM has determined that a Revised Draft RMP/EIS should be developed and an opportunity for public input is needed to gather additional information on the areas of renewable energy, Areas of Critical Environmental Concern, lands with wilderness characteristics, land tenure adjustments (land disposals), Gold Butte National Monument, and socio-economics.
Opportunity to provide input is offered from now until February 2, 2018 • E-mail: sndo_rmp_revision@blm.gov • Fax: (702) 515-5023
 

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“We Don’t Care. Do what you want,” is the message we send if we don’t send comments.
Adding our side to the mix lengthens the process by adding more differences to workout. That this is still going on means we did good in 2014. We need that same fight or better in 2018. It’s a matter of attrition. The first side that loses interest, loses.
A lot has changed since 2014 that’s not reflected in the 2018 RMP. The 2018 RMP is still Obama’s RMP. It’s based on BLM’s 2012 Planning Rule. Revoking the BLM’s 2012 Planning Rule was one of President Trump’s first actions.
Where’s the Trump RMP?

Concerns we raised in 2012 and 2014 that weren’t adequately addressed in the 2018 RMP:
The proposed RMP doesn’t represent the pubic who use public land. The people who use public land are being squeezed between public land sold for development on one hand and closed to doing what most people go to public land to do, on the other.
Elevate the priority of recreation to be at least equal with preservation.
Stop managing public land by assumptions based on preferences, opinions, and second and third hand perceptions and misperceptions.
People traveling on OHVs not being compatible with natural values or frightening wildlife are urban myths.
Sustainable uses should be permissible uses. “Appropriate” adds a subjective component to what should be objective decisions.
Use is not abuse. Nature is renewable.
The people directly affected by public land management policy should have the greater say in writing it.

RMP Specifics:
Drop VRM (Visual Resource Mgmt.). The objective of VRM is to remove or minimize signs of mankind from the landscape, including trails. By VRM, what can and can’t be done on public land is determined by experts from someplace else because local citizens can’t appreciate what they see because they see it too often. Our point of view, all signs of passing use of mankind are not detrimental. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I see a trail as a beckoning adventure, while a landscape expert may see it as a scare that needs to be eradicated. The people most affected by public land management policy should have the greater say in writing it.

Drop LWC (Lands with Wilderness Characteristics): Between BLM and USFS there’s already more than a million acres of wilderness in southern Nevada. And another 4 million acres bordering the southern Nevada planning district in California and Lincoln County. There’s already enough restrictively managed as wilderness.

Write a 5th alternate, a Stakeholder Alternative.
Add TMPs (Travel Mgmt. Plans) for each alternative: Typically, writing TMPs follows the RMP. Writing the RMP creates the overview, then managements plans are written based on that overview. By including VRM, LWC, etc., in the RMP, the line between vision and specific area management was crossed. While significant area is allotted for riding OHVs, management issues that overlay those areas could curtail or prohibit travel on or in vehicles. Areas where travel is limited to trails (existing or designated) should be measured in miles of types of trails. Manage existing informal open areas as Open Areas. Cease restoration of existing parking/camping areas.


ACEC (Areas of Critical Environmental Concern): Clearly set criteria, thresholds, and goals for ACESs to justify implementation and to measure remediation progress.

Keep public land public. And manage public land for the use of the people that use it.

COMMENT DEADLINE, FEB. 2ND.

E-mail: sndo_rmp_revision@blm.gov
• Fax: (702) 515-5023
 

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Today is the last day to send in comets please take the time


“We Don’t Care. Do what you want,” is the message we send if we don’t send comments.

Adding our side to the mix lengthens the process by adding more differences to workout. That this is still going on means we did good in 2014. We need that same fight or better in 2018. It’s a matter of attrition. The first side that loses interest, loses.
A lot has changed since 2014 that’s not reflected in the 2018 RMP. The 2018 RMP is still Obama’s RMP. It’s based on BLM’s 2012 Planning Rule. Revoking the BLM’s 2012 Planning Rule was one of President Trump’s first actions.
Where’s the Trump RMP?

Concerns we raised in 2012 and 2014 that weren’t adequately addressed in the 2018 RMP:
The proposed RMP doesn’t represent the pubic who use public land. The people who use public land are being squeezed between public land sold for development on one hand and closed to doing what most people go to public land to do, on the other.
Elevate the priority of recreation to be at least equal with preservation.
Stop managing public land by assumptions based on preferences, opinions, and second and third hand perceptions and misperceptions.
People traveling on OHVs not being compatible with natural values or frightening wildlife are urban myths.
Sustainable uses should be permissible uses. “Appropriate” adds a subjective component to what should be objective decisions.
Use is not abuse. Nature is renewable.
The people directly affected by public land management policy should have the greater say in writing it.

RMP Specifics:
Drop VRM (Visual Resource Mgmt.). The objective of VRM is to remove or minimize signs of mankind from the landscape, including trails. By VRM, what can and can’t be done on public land is determined by experts from someplace else because local citizens can’t appreciate what they see because they see it too often. Our point of view, all signs of passing use of mankind are not detrimental. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I see a trail as a beckoning adventure, while a landscape expert may see it as a scare that needs to be eradicated. The people most affected by public land management policy should have the greater say in writing it.

Drop LWC (Lands with Wilderness Characteristics): Between BLM and USFS there’s already more than a million acres of wilderness in southern Nevada. And another 4 million acres bordering the southern Nevada planning district in California and Lincoln County. There’s already enough restrictively managed as wilderness.

Write a 5th alternate, a Stakeholder Alternative.
Add TMPs (Travel Mgmt. Plans) for each alternative: Typically, writing TMPs follows the RMP. Writing the RMP creates the overview, then managements plans are written based on that overview. By including VRM, LWC, etc., in the RMP, the line between vision and specific area management was crossed. While significant area is allotted for riding OHVs, management issues that overlay those areas could curtail or prohibit travel on or in vehicles. Areas where travel is limited to trails (existing or designated) should be measured in miles of types of trails. Manage existing informal open areas as Open Areas. Cease restoration of existing parking/camping areas.

ACEC (Areas of Critical Environmental Concern): Clearly set criteria, thresholds, and goals for ACESs to justify implementation and to measure remediation progress.

Keep public land public. And manage public land for the use of the people that use it.

COMMENT DEADLINE, FEB. 2ND.

E-mail: sndo_rmp_revision@blm.gov
• Fax: (702) 515-5023
 
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