Ok, so this ^^^^ is speculation. Do you know what was visible from the cab of his truck? What announcements had been made that the setback had been ignored? It was my understanding that he launched, bounced, and rolled. Before he launched and could have checked up, was there any reason that he shpould have, since six or so other vehicles went before him?
Why should he have expected there to be people 6 feet from the course at the base of a landing on a course with a setback rule?
I said you can call him. But, hes ten bucks a minute so please have your payment ready...
this topic..like a lot...is not about learning or changing..it seems to be about blaming. regardless of your feelings, as an uninvolved person directly impacted...a lot of the comments are completely false. while they incite deep emotional anger in a lot of people, they still, are...false. The lawsuits..to which i know exactly HOW MANY there are..and who is suing who....you'd be surprised BTW....is really not even asked. I know i am the unliked guy because from the start i have said..and still say..no...I will not say this tragedy is about saying spectators are dumb..case closed..lets move along. This topic, in its youthful audience, is best closed if it could be that simple. Things change...dont fear change...learn it..work with it...see if it benefits you or harms you before judging the very idea of change. What i like..is what dan200 said..it was awesome to see the grouping form for a central cause..people helping fellow enthusiast in the sport they commonly share and love. The desert. I dont think all the various directly involved parties are proud or happy with being a part of this tragically written scene. I dont think the people who hurt to this day through the loss of their loved ones..or their daily pains..are proud of what life dealt them. Like music...it was an 8 track..then a cassette..then a cd..then mp3..now itunes..it evolved..but in the end..were all still enjoying the music. And that should be what matters most..if you truly love your desert sports...adaptation. I can say that my litigation has nothing in it about closures..restrictions..or the like. While we continue to play the blame game..things are happening though..good or bad. All I have ever wanted is to say thank you to all the people who cared..who gave. It has been a hard road since that night..both for my body..somewhat for my finances...and for the losses I have had..some of you should feel very happy to know my closest buddies are no more..when i go to the desert..i go alone..with jakob..afraid to say my name..I have read your posts..in some cases received your threats...but none the less i have continued to be me. Im not a sue happy person..I dont look for wealth off someone else..before this i was never in a lawsuit. I'd never been sued before either. And I, like so many of you didnt realize that if your involved in an accident your medical provider will sue for their losses..whether you want to or not. The waters on this whole matter are deep. They go well beyond perceptions..but in reality..most post perceptions..like "brett is being hounded daily"..i know him.....lol..err..no..read statue of limitations. False..oh my..I could go on. I often wonder how many of us have crossed paths and didnt know it. How many of you borrowed a tool from my camp..or i strapped up and towed over the years? My kid has read or heard a lot of your smack..and i remind him about that night..of who we are...son..wasnt i the one who denied medical aid so others could be helped? Yes. yet, in the end..I was the most critically injured to live...wasnt I the last one to leave the hospital? yes... because of my injuries. ya see...at the moment of need...or pleasure to hurt...disrespect, or self gluttany..this is how people are. I was the last flight to leave the ground that night. all of what i just said is a fact. And no i dont say it to pat myself on the back by any means..i say it simply to say to say that caring is important. Human compassion is important. It is something we have lost in this country...kick a dude and gang up on him and beat him within his life..your cool. Talk smack about dead people..say their idiots..keep the stick swinging at the delapitated pinata..your cool...but be careful friend..for someday you may be the pinata.To all the racers who wanna say.."effing spectators"..what you really say is that when your in your truck..you dont give an eff...and the world belongs to you..so whomever you hurt..whomever you kill..it will be their problem..wowza..I am amazed at some of your thinking..you belong in a closed course arena..not an open desert..your a danger to the world..and self fulfilled..your....sick in my mind...people matter..lives matter...not a single race. Not in an environment to which others also have a right to be at. If you wanna "own" the desert..its called private property..put a fence up..then argue they shouldnt have been there..until then....no..with your ideology..it is you who shouldnt be there..your the danger to the rest of the public..and so..accidents will happen..right? i think there could be a happy medium..but it will never get there until we move on beyond blamegame..and yes..this will require everyones effort... KOh has figured it out well..BITD has figured it out...Primm has figured it out....I guess it can be figured out then. If some of you would take some of your haterblamer passion and effort and focus it on your sport..it would get figured out. Lets honor the deads lives by making a positive sport in their honor. Thats my thoughts. dont focus on me..i'm nobody in the end. And like stated before..no part of what is going on in my personal life is out to close down or shut down this sport.
So,if brett had more experience this wouldnt have happened? Could that suggest that whoever allowed someone to compete in the race without the experience to lift in this situation would be to blame? As opposed the guy without the experience?Neither of us were there that night, were we? My speculation/deduction is based on over a half century of off roading, reported facts, the aftermath, logic and reason.
Part of driver prep in off road racing is to expect the unexpected.
do you have some evidence of some kind?As to whether he should have proceeded as he did, evidence indicates otherwise.
No, I said "My pops will be more than happy to discuss this with you further if you would like. He might even offer you a discounted rate for his expertise." I never suggested he wanted to do it for you for free.And you said he was interested in discussing the matter, IIRC. I didn't think you were implying he had only a financial interest in discussion, in effect, shilling for him.
I told you to give him my number so that he may call me at his convenience, and I'm either waiting for his call, or calling your bluff, Dan.
So,if brett had more experience this wouldnt have happened?
Could that suggest that whoever allowed someone to compete in the race without the experience to lift in this situation would be to blame?
As opposed the guy without the experience?
do you have some evidence of some kind?
No, I said "My pops will be more than happy to discuss this with you further if you would like. He might even offer you a discounted rate for his expertise." I never suggested he wanted to do it for you for free.
But, i get free opinions so, what i Posted about last clear chance (the legal argument you suggested we read up on) was that in that argument the spectators were the ones in the wrong... Basically i reiterated what my dad said about your suggestion.
Idunno....always thought they seek the truth...and in that...the blame will be spoken