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Mint 400 screwed us!

DG_BTI

Well-Known Member
I have been one of those who has been supportive of this race as I have raced it as far back as the mid 80's. Even as recent as last week I laughed off the guys bitching and complaining. well, guess what? We got effed over by these guys. I will stop short of name calling, at this point anyway.

So I was entered as a team in the open team bike class. Three laps, three riders. Plan was to team with my 22 year old son in his first big race ever and another younger friend. I was set to do the last lap and hopefully celebrate a Mint 400 win with my son. All planning was done. All friends and family in place at their pits A, B and main. So I am at the start line with Kole, the rider starting. At literally a minute or two before the race is to get the green, the guy on the mic says, "special announcement, the race has been shortened to two laps from three". WTF??? Seriously? Says its for safety concerns as the UTV race could overlap with riders on their third lap. OK, so you just figured this out? now? one minute before the start? Not last week, not even last night at the drivers meeting? No, apparently not. So, from my math, approx 89 teams, one rider got screwed out of getting to race the "most premier off road race in the country" This included me. I'm not alone in the fact I spent a ton of money, training, bike prep, pit meetings, family and friends spending their own money, ect...No time now to make any changes now as far as to how split it up so we all can ride. Damage done, I never rode the bike I bought, built and worst not able to race with my kid. Good news, we , or my son I should say, won the race, awesome! They won, no mistakes, no crashes and no injuries, cool. But I unfortunately did not get to be a part of it, so ya I'm pissed. All they had to do was tell us the night before and we could changed the plan. But no, they tell us a minute before the start. And here is the best part, they will refund me 33% of the entry. That will make up for everything, thanks Mint.
 

jon coleman

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they(promotors) woulda been better off just checker flagging second lap and saying ' we shortened race because of a safety concern), doing it At The Start??, oh no , that doesn't get into ALL the riders head's and make things worse...besides it is 33.3333%( not enough to cover All logistics of team planning thats Wasted!)
 

BajaboundMoto

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Three laps, three riders. Plan was to team with my 22 year old son in his first big race ever and another younger friend. I was set to do the last lap and hopefully celebrate a Mint 400 win with my son ..... Good news, we , or my son I should say, won the race, awesome! They won
Hey, be happy... the team might not have won if you rode the 3rd lap ;-)
Just kidding buddy. Bummed for you guys.
 

Fire1998

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Mint will not recover from this! Unfortunately they own the rights to the "Mint 400....uh.."Mint 200"...dont know which one it is. Why the Martellis asumed they could run a race this big is beyond me!! I heard online video was good...well thats what they do..... Not put on desert races!!! Its a money making deal and when they leave....offroad racing will never hear from them again!! Good try though!!!
 

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J Prich

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Mint will not recover from this! Unfortunately they own the rights to the "Mint 400....uh.."Mint 200"...dont know which one it is. Why the Martellis asumed they could run a race this big is beyond me!! I heard online video was good...well thats what they do..... Not put on desert races!!! Its a money making deal and when they leave....offroad racing will never hear from them again!! Good try though!!!
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mxben

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Last year, the year they "brought" the bikes back, there was some over lapping of the course crossings. I got held up for over a minute twice waiting for some of the car or truck classes to come through. Depending on timing some riders may not have been held up. But I did get to ironman all three laps for a total of 240 miles which was hard. Sort of jank especially since it came down to less than a minute for a podium finish. At one point I missed a flag and ended up going backward on the truck course for about 10 seconds until I realized where I was- HOLY F, the course was great, and I like the concept, but theres some stuff to work out. Skipped it this year.
 

Fire1998

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Good call. Please bookmark this invaluable piece of predictive insight.
Uh...now Mint is blaming people for moving course danger markings!! When will this end!! Was it same same peeps who cut dirtbike race 3 minutes before race. Same peeps who made racers sit in their trucks for 2.5 hours? Same peeps who changed schedule days before race? Damn these peeps need to be hired by Government to blame Coronavirus on them!!!
 
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mgobaja

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Uh...now Mint is blaming people for moving course danger markings!! When will this end!! Was it same same peeps who cut dirtbike race 3 minutes before race. Same peeps who made racers sit in their trucks for 2.5 hours? Same peeps who changed schedule days before race? Damn these peeps need to be hired by Government to blame Coronavirus on them!!!
I heard it was a bit windy out there, so I am guessing mother nature might be the culprit for course marking being relocated.
 

J Prich

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I heard it was a bit windy out there, so I am guessing mother nature might be the culprit for course marking being relocated.
Not wind. It was not windy during the week. There were multiple locations in which markings were altered or removed. Stakes pulled, etc. And more than once. Some were replaced multiple times.
 

pdailey

Racer
Uh...now Mint is blaming people for moving course danger markings!! When will this end!! Was it same same peeps who cut dirtbike race 3 minutes before race. Same peeps who made racers sit in their trucks for 2.5 hours? Same peeps who changed schedule days before race? Damn these peeps need to be hired by Government to blame Coronavirus on them!!!
You are a cancer to this sport and forum. Please go away.
 

DG_BTI

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I didn't intend to place blame on the volunteers or any single person. Nor to say I wont come back. I just wanted to share the emotion from someone who basically was benched right before kickoff. I'm sure there was no ill intent towards motos or anyone in particular. I wanted to point out that there are some serious issues that need to be addressed "before" the schedule is announced. Bad decisions lead to more bad decisions. I would delete this post if I could. I was angry and disappointed. Today, all is good. I am grateful my kid got to not only race but win the Mint 400. We will be back next year as I feel it will be addressed.
 

J Prich

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I genuinely try to be cool with everyone. I don't mind disagreements and varying opinions, no hard feelings. But I feel like I've gone out of my way to be respectful and polite and tried to answer some things that people were posting here out of a good faith effort to provide a response. But some people just want to argue to argue and have no intention of having a civil conversation so there's no point in even responding to those types.
 

J Prich

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I didn't intend to place blame on the volunteers or any single person. Nor to say I wont come back. I just wanted to share the emotion from someone who basically was benched right before kickoff. I'm sure there was no ill intent towards motos or anyone in particular. I wanted to point out that there are some serious issues that need to be addressed "before" the schedule is announced. Bad decisions lead to more bad decisions. I would delete this post if I could. I was angry and disappointed. Today, all is good. I am grateful my kid got to not only race but win the Mint 400. We will be back next year as I feel it will be addressed.
I don't really want to get in to the backstory of it all here because it won't do any good anyways but I just want to say that this specific situation was the most gut wrenching part of the whole event and it doesn't change anything or make what happened go away...but I can tell you that literally every single person involved was devastated to have to make that call. There were a variety of factors that caused it to happen, but no one wanted it to go that way and everyone was bummed about what we knew we were going to face as a result. We all understood the implications of it and hated that things came to that.
 
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