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OiLibya Rally of Morocco

spalind

Well-Known Member
#21
The Peugeot 3008DKR continues to perform at the Rallye du Maroc and scored strong results on today’s stage three with the first double podium finish, thanks to Sebastien Loeb/Daniel Elena in second and Carlos Sainz/Lucas Cruz third.

Sebastien Loeb/Daniel Elena started seventh on the road. They ran reliably, averaging 100km/h, and were more cautious in the dunes of the final part of the stage, ending up second on the stage and maintaining the overall lead of the event with a margin of 3 minutes 46 seconds.


Carlos Sainz/Lucas Cruz joined their team-mates on the stage podium, proving that they are truly up to speed despite several months out of the car. Even though they suffered from dust from the cars ahead of them on the road, after having started in 14th position, they were able to move up to 3rd position on the stage, passing 3 competitors on the road.


The 50-hour penalty for Sainz, as a result of a misunderstanding with race control on yesterday’s shortened stage 2, was cancelled, meaning that the Spaniard is now back in a representative position – 6th overall, 26 minutes off the leader.


Tonight at the marathon bivouac there is no service park, meaning the drivers and co-drivers will go through the mechanics’ check-list by themselves. As neither crew had any particular problems, despite the navigation continuing to be tricky, they will focus on the road-book preparation and get some deserved rest.



NUMBER OF THE DAY: 11 This is the combined number of World Rally Championship titles that the Peugeot Total #DreamTeam in Morocco of Sebastien Loeb and Carlos Sainz have accumulated between them. Staggeringly, this also equates to 104 WRC event victories.



QUOTES / UNQUOTE

Bruno FAMIN Peugeot Sport Director Team Manager Peugeot Total

“After what was quite literally a disorientating day yesterday, it was good to get back on track today with a -two-three finish for our 3008DKR. Carlos and Lucas were the fastest in section two of the stage, and were able to keep their cool. Now they are back among the competition and will fight to return to the top places. Sebastien and Daniel are smartly maintaining a sizeable lead. The cars have been perfectly reliable so the crews should not have much work to do tonight on the marathon bivouac.”


Sébastien LOEB, Team Peugeot Total driver2nd on the stage, 1st overall

“No problems for us today and we just concentrated on getting to the finish of the stage with no further drama or risks. We managed to maintain the gap with Nasser Al- Attiyah and we still have a small advantage. Tomorrow, he will open the road so our job is to stay focused and concentrated on finding the right way, without overreaching ourselves.”


Carlos SAINZ, Team Peugeot Total driver 3rd on the stage, 6th overall

“With every kilometre we feel more confident with the car; the only thing that was a little frustrating today was the dust from the cars ahead, as we started in the back. But apart from that it was OK. We will adjust some of the set-up on the car tonight. Now we are concentrating on moving up the order if we can.”



WHAT’S NEXT?

Like today, tomorrow’s action is split into two sections, predominantly featuring sand dunes. The first section takes in 170 kilometres of stage, leaving directly from the bivouac. The second section takes in 263 kilometres, after a 21-kilometre road section. It’s an intensive day requiring maximum driving precision and concentration from the crews, as it's all too easy to make a mistake and get stuck.
I assume the translation meant a 50 minute and not 50 hour penalty?
 

CFreeLV

Well-Known Member
#24
Looked like Brabec benefited immensly from this rally. He made trail on stage 4 and his starting positions on the others varied. Also sounded like the navigation thru the dunes was the difference. I believe he has the speed and once his navigation skills are on par he will be a legitimate contender to win Dakar. Getting a stage win as well as a podium in the final rankings certainly doesn't hurt his confidence level either.
 

GEO_DXB

Well-Known Member
#25
And there you go...

Nasser and Loeb did not attend the prize giving... At the finish ramp Emma Clair (of the NPO - race organizers for Morocco) asked Nasser to remove his car and put it into park ferme, obstructed photographers and press and tried to shoo them away from Nasser. NPO says that FIA staff helped Nasser to win and that NPO do not agree with the final race results. Nasser threw out his medal. This is due to events at day 2 when the race was cut short... Overdrive and some other teams insisted on calculating the days results at factual stop at the river crossing (river flooded and most drivers agreed it was impossible to cross), Peugeot insisted on CP1 results. FIA took Overdrive stance - which benefited everyone, but not Sainz who had mechanical issues and not Loeb who was having navigation issues and hence both had times behind Nasser. NPO now says this was done to allow Overdrive to win and gave Nasser unfair advantage. Morocco might now be out of WorldCup next year. Also rumor is - NPO sold the rights to the race before 017 edition so they didn't care much. BTW Sven Quandt did not take part in any of discussions about day 2 as he had no clear benefit.

On top - almost everyone complained about car roadbook on day 5 - people even said it was done by someone other than the person who did previous days. And Elisabete Jacinto spent 3 days with her truck stranded in the desert without help from the organizers...
 

Dirty Harry

Well-Known Member
#26
And there you go...

Nasser and Loeb did not attend the prize giving... At the finish ramp Emma Clair (of the NPO - race organizers for Morocco) asked Nasser to remove his car and put it into park ferme, obstructed photographers and press and tried to shoo them away from Nasser. NPO says that FIA staff helped Nasser to win and that NPO do not agree with the final race results. Nasser threw out his medal. This is due to events at day 2 when the race was cut short... Overdrive and some other teams insisted on calculating the days results at factual stop at the river crossing (river flooded and most drivers agreed it was impossible to cross), Peugeot insisted on CP1 results. FIA took Overdrive stance - which benefited everyone, but not Sainz who had mechanical issues and not Loeb who was having navigation issues and hence both had times behind Nasser. NPO now says this was done to allow Overdrive to win and gave Nasser unfair advantage. Morocco might now be out of WorldCup next year. Also rumor is - NPO sold the rights to the race before 017 edition so they didn't care much. BTW Sven Quandt did not take part in any of discussions about day 2 as he had no clear benefit.

On top - almost everyone complained about car roadbook on day 5 - people even said it was done by someone other than the person who did previous days. And Elisabete Jacinto spent 3 days with her truck stranded in the desert without help from the organizers...
Well there is some info you don’t see if the event press release!
 

ZequeArgentina

Well-Known Member
#27
Very good info GEO.
Also in bikes a big mess, just look at Ricky Bravec comments:


Ricky Brabec
STAGE: 14th OVERALL: 4th
Today I had to open the track over the first kilometres. Then we rode in a group until the end. It was a short stage. The roadbook was tough in the morning. The sand dunes were good. The stage was really fun but it’s hard to go race when you know that KTM get their own way. They have a really good spokesperson for FIM and towards the rally organisation. To keep racing after they get their own way every single day is tough for us. We keep fighting and we keep doing well and we can win. But when Honda wins KTM have something to say. It’s not good. It hasn’t been a good rally for us. They do something wrong they capitalize on it and get their time back. They miss a waypoint - they get their time back. They get stuck in the water - they get their time back. We go one kph over the speed limit - they give us a one minute penalty. It’s a little BS for us. It’s not fun and it’s not racing for us. It’s hard to race each day like that. Tomorrow is the last day and we’ll fight for a win.

Afterwards, penalties went back to Qintanilla, who anyhow grabbed the World title by just 3 points to Kevin Benavides, who was finally second.
Really big mess up but as you comment, sportingwise, consider times until the river crossing looked like the most reasonable.
On the other hand, the Sporting Authotrity is the FIA. NPO should not have any intervention on it, and clearly cannot proceede as you mention. Nasser won the rally, as per FIA results which are the only ones valid.
 

spalind

Well-Known Member
#33
Concensus among a few I’ve talked to is that the problems started at the top and now worries are the FIA and FIM after action reports will be bad enough for them to lose their spot in the championships in ‘18


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