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dezerts10

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well i went to ocatillo this weekend and broke my truck. At first i was thinking electrical be cause i didnt have time to properly mount my main fuse box and out in the roough stuff it flooped around and was arching so i thought i might have fried the computer. but now i got it home and messed with it all day put new plugs wires and stuff in it. It idles normal like it did thursday and if i get over about like 2000 rpm it begins to misfireand sputter. we pulled the fuel filter off and turned the car on and it it pumped gas on to the drive way so i know the fuel pump works. the filter was put back on and i turned the car to the on position to let the pressure build up and then started the truck and it ran perfectly for about 15 secs up to about 4000 rpm and then it began to misfire again. any ideas? i guess it shows that you cant rigged stuff to work when your outa time cause eventually it will catch up and its gonna be on the trailer for the long ride home.

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Hmmm...Might wanna check your O2 sensor(s) My Ranger had sim problems and it was the o2 sensors..funny thing was that it didnt light up the check engine light.

Brandon



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well a friend and i went in together and bought an analysis tool and we pluged it into my truck and said a few things. one was the Catalitic onverter was "not ready" so we took it off and found it was plugged full of carbon build up and alot of other BS. so tomarrow im taking the cat to the dealer and gonna show it to them and see what they say about replacing it.

Isnt smog stuff supposed to be warrentied for like 7 years?
ill see what happens and after i put the new cat on ill see if the truck works.
Gregg
 

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I would say it depends on the dealer. When my cat went out I had 70K and it was 4 years old and Toyota wouldn't replace it, but recently my girlfriend's accord had the cat go bad and also had about
70K in it and 4 years old and they replaced it. But I would imagine since your truck is still fairly new
they should.
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well i took the cat to the dealer and they said it looked like it pretty much feel apart inside. they told me its under warrenty for 8 years or 80,000 miles. so i have to put it back together and they will tow it and replace the cat. good thing cause the cats around $1000.

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yeah thats what the service guy said its cause its a 2000 and he said that it has to OEM or it wont work plus he said it illegal for a muffler shop to do it since its newer then 95. its not my money i dont care im not paying for it.

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Wow thats crazy....a cat for my truck is like $70 lol

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dezerts10

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i know what you mean, austin. iwas just gonna go tothe muffler shop and get it replace cut the old one out and weld a new one in its only like 80 bucks. but i thought about the warrenty and went tot he dealer first and thats what they told me.

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Man it sounds like they are trying to rip you off. I have a 96 cherokee and I didnt have to buy the cat from the dealership actually I just took mine completely off with the 2 o2 censors and nothing happened. Just sounds weird that it costs that much.
 

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It has something to do w/ the CARB and smog legal crap. I know you are not supposed to replece a cat on a __ or newer car or truck. There is a year/mileage thing where you cannot change them. I believe this is to avoid people taking them off to put on performance ones or whatever. I just got 2 brand new cats off ebay for my truck (I got 2 stainless 2.5" hi-flow universal cats fort $110 shipped) and inside the box there is a form that the muff shop has to fill out when they put them on. The form has a waiver type thing and then also has them list the year, make, model, mileage etc. Too much damn smog mumbo jumbo if you ask me. Steve
 

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well i got home today and called the dealer and the service guy said they were gonna replace my cat but they wont do it again. I guess thecoilovers up front and the bed cage give it away as a desert truck. anyways i got this one as a gift the service guy said no more.

So heres my question. anyone know of a way to gut my oild cat out and use it so i can atleast pass a visual inspection? Im gonna ask for it back when i pick up my truck cause the deal;er recomended i take it out and only put it in when i need the truck smogged cause its might happen again. what about the effects having no cat and o2 sessors before and afterthe cat?

Gregg
 

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Air hammer with a piece of bar stock welded to the end of an old bit as an extension. A little messy but fast and simple.
 

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Longest flathead screwdriver you have, or prybar, and a hammer...then needlenose to remove the screen.



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I didn't say this but...

I would leave as much of the cat material in there as possible. That way if you get pulled over and the cop taps on the cat it doesn't sound hollow. To do this I would take a hole saw attached to a 1' or so piece of soilid stock (instead of the drill bit that goes in them) and drill out enough area (you'll have to stop drilling and knock out the cat pieces a couple times) so that you can a piece of exhaust tubing (same size as your existing pipe) through it. This way you have a straight pipe (pipe through the cat) but it looks like a cat, and sounds solid if they tap on it. Then just put flanges one either side of the new cat and old cat so you can swap um out at test time. Cats don't like being rattled a lot (dezert driving is hell on them), so they break a lot. Because of this I will most likely be doing what I mentioned above.

Now - if the smog nazis find me I'm screwed. Plus I'm bet the guy at the dealer that suggested you do this gould get in BIG trouble if a CARB person or whatever heard him say that.
 

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The cop has to be a CAT specialist in order to tell you it is no good... meaning you could win in court every time. If it looks like a cat then that is all you need.

Kris
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Yup I will be going to court very shortly for that ticket I got for no cat....I guess he dosent know what a cat looks like cause I had one on there :)

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I have been pulled over for noise pollution before and the cop asked if I had a cat. I said "of course" and he looked and said "I know what a cat looks like and I don't see one". I replied w/ "would you like me to get out of the car and show you?". I had a hollowed cat, but you can't tell from looking so I crawled under the truck w/ his flashlight and pointed it out to him. He was like "oh". Damn dick still gave me a ton of fix it tickets though.

I guess the point of this rambling is - yes cops aren't experts, but they do like to give you hell and try and get you on whatever they can on stuff like this. I'd take the little extra time just to be extra sure. Steve
 
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