Ranger I beam build camber help

[Klapper431]

Looking for some advice/help with my current build..
I have a ranger with a full threat equal length beam kit. Just made the switch from unequal length. Did the new beam kit, dual swing steer, new engine cage and shocks. After doing all this work for the switch and setting the truck down on its own weight I have a ride height and camber issue. I had 300 over 400 spring rate with zero preload in the springs and the fender line was sitting 5 feet in the air. Being zero preload in the springs I couldn’t back the preload nut off any to lower the ride height because the springs would be loose at droop. So I then switched to 250 pound springs top and bottom just to see what it did for the height. It did help but still not enough and again zero preload. Rolled the truck to try and get it to settle and even drove it. The night time picture is after driving the truck and not much changes. So I’m stuck with not knowing what my next best option is to try… I’m all ears open to learn something! Thank you.

 

[Exp24]

How is your alignment for toe in? When you go in reverse does it squat down in the front?

 

[Exp24]

Does the beam have alignment cam on the top mount, where the spindle connects to the beam?

 

[jon coleman]

did you cycle those shocks?, they look too long, take springs off& jack up i beam, bottom it out, send us more pics of that,

 

[Klapper431]

Camber cam is turned as much as it will go. Shocks are 14” stroke, built the engine cage with the beam at full bump and mounted the shock as close to 90 degrees to the beam and radius arm. Drove it with the 250 springs on it and it did help out but still not enough. Going to switch the upper to 150 spring and see if that gets it closer. I will post a picture after I drove it with the 250 springs

 

[DesertLab]

Alignment cams are maxed out the wrong direction?

 

[RSwenson]

Josh Nie
Back from the dead.
Welcome!

 

[partybarge_pilot]

Are your spindles on upside down?

 

[Klaus]

Camburg made those adjustable camber ranger i-beams for a short while. I have a set sitting around...maybe should list in the worlds best off-road classifieds.

 

[Bro_Gill]

Take some preload out of the shocks so it drops into a better geometry. This should be obvious.

 

[Klapper431]

Take some preload out of the shocks so it drops into a better geometry. This should be obvious.

Couldn’t take any preload out of the springs due to the springs getting loose at full droop.

 

[Klapper431]

Thank you for the reply guys, I got the springs and camber figured out once I had a couple different sets of springs to try. Ran the truck for a week straight a couple weeks ago and finally got some fun out of it. I’m at 200 over 250 with the springs rate and can’t add any more spring because it will mess with camber again. So now I’m on to the valving. Just going to leave the light spring rate and valve it heavy enough to work. Right now it hits bump pretty easy with the light springs and whatever valving is in it.

 

[Bro_Gill]

Someone in Az. help out!

 

[Exp24]

That is a light spring rate for a I beam truck, did you check the toe? It should be around 1/8" toe in, if not it will cause the truck to sit out of camber

 

[EL ROMAN]

Just from a quick look, it looks mostly an issue of shock mounting location, assuming you put your hangers in the right location. With that light of a spring rate, you're going to burn through your shock and/or bypass. Take your springs off, make sure you're cycling everything 3 times over, this goes for your steering too. Also, if you plan on doing any racing or truly beating on the truck, ditch the camber adjusters. Get the zero degree ones and build into your camber and toe while you're at this stage. This fixes your points and won't change. It will save you later down the road, especially your ball joints. DM me if you have any questions. I just happened to stumble on this when navigating to the home page. Having done this once or 5-6 times, I may be able to prevent future headaches, not all, you'll always get headaches, but at least reduce them

 

[michael.gonzalez]

That and the spring slider is resting on the secondary stops…..

Might coil-bind at full bump, not good. Or am I looking at it wrong?

 

[MC@ Performance Fab]

Like several have said you need to remove the springs and cycle the arm to get and idea of where your at. Something you obviously should have done before welding the shock mounts. Got to agree, the shocks are to long. Honestly it looks like a Nightmare.

 

[bullnerd]

"Honestly it looks like a Nightmare."

MC with the positive vibes! lol!

 

[MC@ Performance Fab]

Well by all means Nerd, tell him exactly what he needs to do to fix it.

 

[michael.gonzalez]

Well by all means Nerd, tell him exactly what he needs to do to fix it.

He needs to dial the secondary spring stops up. The coil slider is resting on it (IE. top coil is not seeing any load).

Currently, his spring rate is 250 lb/in.
With the secondary spring stop dialed up, his spring rate will be 1/[(1/200)+(1/250)] = 111 lb/in