Hey Tim. Looking at your original thoughts. I agree. 1700 is struggling in car count. So is 2700 and 3700.4700 tbd. Jeepspeed always touts numbers of teams competing. The problem is they don’t compete every race and therefore you race against 4-6 people most races. When I bought my 1700 to rebuild (2014) I did it because of Two reasons, ease of cost/prep and car count. By the time I raced (2016) the average race car count had already started to drop. By 2019 it was down to 4-6. Imo 1700 is far too costly for the speed it averages. Ask me how I know. Sure you can show up with a stock crate engine and driveline and finish. But there’s no way you’ll podium if the hp guys finish. Rob Seubert, Biehl, Allred , Randall were all running hp. So to compete we had to do the same. $9k in a 4.0 and aw4 trans that is running on the edge of catastrophe is too much for the advertising of cost effective racing. Parker 2019 we finished second. Fourth place finisher who ran mostly stock components was Loud and open calling all of us in the top 3 cheaters and telling Jeepspeed officials they better catch us or he wouldn’t be back. In my opinion 1700 is down due to cost. I’m looking at budget for next year in production turbo and entry fee difference is really the only significant additional cost compared to 1700. Fuel mpg is better in the utv. Tires, wheels, heims, driveshafts electronics etc are all comparable. I’ll need an additional chase crew/truck. A brand new engine , trans and turbo from Can-Am is reliable and around 8k. I did however look at 4700 before deciding on my current venture. Jeepspeed says in the post above its 80 grand or more in utv to compete. I disagree. It’s 80 grand if you pay to buy a turn key car. I also heard the red and white WJ that runs 1700 was 120k to build. (???) If you do your part it’s not. But for arguments sake let’s say it is. Jeepspeed also said it would cost 80k for a 4700. If both cost 80k then race the class with 50 starters rather than 5. I’d rather see who I am in the stack with 50 ( and be mid pack) than take third in a pack of 5. Or worse put more money in your xj to run 2700. Racing in a class of 2-3. Jeepspeed was fun while i was in the driver seat, the rest of the time imo it was Over complicated . If fun is what your after I would recommend keeping running 1700. If you want car count consider utv. Or as the elitists call them “ golf carts”. The top golf cart beat every class 10 car On corrected time at V2R this year by the way. If you want to go faster then you’ll have to decide how much more you want to spend. If 4700 continues to grow upwards of 15-20 per race and I’m getting my ass handed to me in a couple seasons in production turbo then I may revisit the 4700 idea. Until then I’ll accept the challenge. You are the only one who can define fun for you. My 2 cents.