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<blockquote data-quote="DailyPedal" data-source="post: 15053" data-attributes="member: 103"><p>Martin, I feel your pain dude, but you seem to be a bit of a retro grouch. So I will only comment on your 1600 issues because I can relate. First, would you rather see 1600-5/1600 go back to all type 1 VW parts? Like stock arms, spindles and rear trailing arms? And what about the type 1 trans. We had almost $4000 in one trying to get it to live in a 5/1600 in the early 80's. And every race was a crapshoot as to which VW part would decide to fail during a race. All were checked, maged, and so on. The new arms by Kartek address the issue of a general lack of availability of quality new and used parts to keep screwing on these limited cars. No good link pin spindles and arms, go to chromoly(lasts for years now). No good type1 trans output shaft, go to type 2 (actually cheaper to build). No good vw steer boxes, go to r/pinion(cheaper in the long run, not $130 thrown away every race). Now, no good stub axles or drums (without spending $500 pair for stubs) go to micro stub. Its evolution baby and sometimes, the racer benefits in less replacement costs in the long run because better parts are used from the start. Racers with older cars might want to pony up to the new stuff but there are still a lot of old-school cars out there that are very competitive. I guarantee, Kartek ain't doing this for the bucks, they did this because of the inconsistant supply of good stub axles and the ever increasing costs to produce their race drum kit. And you don't have any suggestions for improving anything. How about limiting travel, you know, like the truck classes. And what about the big dog bypass shocks? Tim Lindsay still wins in 5/1600 with little shocks, big bars and type 4 cvs. Old school. Can't win if you don't finish, and prep...prep...prep...If you have any further comment on this kit, why don't you call Kartek and ask for yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DailyPedal, post: 15053, member: 103"] Martin, I feel your pain dude, but you seem to be a bit of a retro grouch. So I will only comment on your 1600 issues because I can relate. First, would you rather see 1600-5/1600 go back to all type 1 VW parts? Like stock arms, spindles and rear trailing arms? And what about the type 1 trans. We had almost $4000 in one trying to get it to live in a 5/1600 in the early 80's. And every race was a crapshoot as to which VW part would decide to fail during a race. All were checked, maged, and so on. The new arms by Kartek address the issue of a general lack of availability of quality new and used parts to keep screwing on these limited cars. No good link pin spindles and arms, go to chromoly(lasts for years now). No good type1 trans output shaft, go to type 2 (actually cheaper to build). No good vw steer boxes, go to r/pinion(cheaper in the long run, not $130 thrown away every race). Now, no good stub axles or drums (without spending $500 pair for stubs) go to micro stub. Its evolution baby and sometimes, the racer benefits in less replacement costs in the long run because better parts are used from the start. Racers with older cars might want to pony up to the new stuff but there are still a lot of old-school cars out there that are very competitive. I guarantee, Kartek ain't doing this for the bucks, they did this because of the inconsistant supply of good stub axles and the ever increasing costs to produce their race drum kit. And you don't have any suggestions for improving anything. How about limiting travel, you know, like the truck classes. And what about the big dog bypass shocks? Tim Lindsay still wins in 5/1600 with little shocks, big bars and type 4 cvs. Old school. Can't win if you don't finish, and prep...prep...prep...If you have any further comment on this kit, why don't you call Kartek and ask for yourself. [/QUOTE]
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