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<blockquote data-quote="DailyPedal" data-source="post: 15059" data-attributes="member: 103"><p>Martin, I do understand your point, its just that I have been involved with 1600 cars of one type or another for the last 20 years and during that time I have seen the availability of the quality OE parts that were around 5 or 10 years ago disappear. And as far as &quot;beginner class&quot; that's what all of the sportsman classes are all about. If a car or truck is too expensive to build, find a class that fits the budget, it has always been that way, it was that way for you and for me, and it will never change. It doesn't matter what type, round-d-round, drag or whatever. And tell it to the 70 1600 drivers at Parker that they need to go back to VW parts and see what response you get. It's too bad 5/1600 is not what it used to be but then, off road racing is not what it used to be. In the mid 70's and into the early 80's we built our own car from the ground up (we were required to run a type 1 trans back then) all of the partners were factory trained VW mechanics,&nbsp; but it was still so expensive and so much work to prep that we had three partners in it to share expenses and still we only were able to race a couple of races a year, if that. If we had the car built by a builder back then, it probably would have cost 12 to 17 grand, and now its almost 25. Not bad considering it's been 20 years. I think overall, at the end of the year a racer will have spent less money to race a more dependable car today than we did. That's why you see racers racing 10 and 15 year-old 1600 cars still today.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="DailyPedal, post: 15059, member: 103"] Martin, I do understand your point, its just that I have been involved with 1600 cars of one type or another for the last 20 years and during that time I have seen the availability of the quality OE parts that were around 5 or 10 years ago disappear. And as far as "beginner class" that's what all of the sportsman classes are all about. If a car or truck is too expensive to build, find a class that fits the budget, it has always been that way, it was that way for you and for me, and it will never change. It doesn't matter what type, round-d-round, drag or whatever. And tell it to the 70 1600 drivers at Parker that they need to go back to VW parts and see what response you get. It's too bad 5/1600 is not what it used to be but then, off road racing is not what it used to be. In the mid 70's and into the early 80's we built our own car from the ground up (we were required to run a type 1 trans back then) all of the partners were factory trained VW mechanics, but it was still so expensive and so much work to prep that we had three partners in it to share expenses and still we only were able to race a couple of races a year, if that. If we had the car built by a builder back then, it probably would have cost 12 to 17 grand, and now its almost 25. Not bad considering it's been 20 years. I think overall, at the end of the year a racer will have spent less money to race a more dependable car today than we did. That's why you see racers racing 10 and 15 year-old 1600 cars still today. [/QUOTE]

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