Seed 9 Rally - Dec 5th, in Jean, Nevada

[rallyorg]

We hope that alot of you will come out to volunteer OR compete.

Go to www.rally-america.com website to check out the specs for scrutneering and/or rules for the event.

Then enter on www.rallydata.com to enter as a competitor or to volunteer.

Any questions about the event...just call Pat McMahon at 562-547-1133. He is the clerk of the course and RA tech inspector and one of the organizers. Or e-mail him at marymountdenise@aol.com

Location: Jean, Nevada at the host hotel - Gold Strike Casino.

Entry Fee which includes Stage Notes - $399.00

One day event with stage notes. Also a NIGHT rally. Bring out your light pods!

Morning:
Recce in regular vehicles and not in competition rally vehicles.
Competitor Registration/Tech

Evening:
FCO - 4:00pm

35-38 stage miles- coefficient 2 event. A Southwest Rallycup series and California Rally
Series and Rally America Regional series final event of the season.

VOLUNTEER:
We need:
Licensed ham operators,
Control marshals
Assistants to help tech inspectors which you can do in combine to do controls.
Sweep- a good tow truck or SUV...you get to go behind the competitors in line on each stage.
Equipment Sweep - you help to pick up signage/stakes and follow the stages after the competitors go through...

We will provide dinner sandwiches and water.

Following the event...we all end up at the Pioneer Saloon for some liquid beverages, there is pool tables and awards ceremony. Pioneer Saloon has been the tradtion of the event to end up there.

Just go to www.rallydata.com to sign up. Thank you.

Denise McMahon
Series Director
Southwest RallyCup Series

 

[Kartman]

Looks cool but unfortunately its the same day as BITD Henderson. What time do the night stages start? Might have to make it a double header.

 

[rallyorg]

Looks cool but unfortunately its the same day as BITD Henderson. What time do the night stages start? Might have to make it a double header.

The first car out is 4:00PM from the casino.

If you are volunteering we can put you on a later stage and not the first stage.

If competing...we can make special arrangements if the vehicle is up to code to RA specs...

We love to have you...do note that one stage road Seed 9 gave up which we have had over 5 years to a off-road event...apparently the BLM planner forgot there were two events on the same date...

Denise McMahon
Series Director
Southwest RallyCup Series

 

[Kartman]

Thanks Denise, I would be there as Media. Do you have a link to a credential application? What time will the last night stage start?

 

[DWphoto]

hope to make it out there to shoot photos

 

[trent06]

Thanks for the info Denise. Can you tell me how different the rally America rules are compared to the united states rally championship rules specifically for the open 2wd class or whatever would be comparable to that for rally America. I am normally a desert racer but ran the prescott rally for my first rally event in the usrc open 2wd and CRS group 5 in our desert racing pre runner and enjoyed it a lot and would like to go rally racing again. The only problem the tech inspector told us at the prescott rally was that our sill bar needed to be lower...

 

[rallyorg]

Thanks for the info Denise. Can you tell me how different the rally America rules are compared to the united states rally championship rules specifically for the open 2wd class or whatever would be comparable to that for rally America. I am normally a desert racer but ran the prescott rally for my first rally event in the usrc open 2wd and CRS group 5 in our desert racing pre runner and enjoyed it a lot and would like to go rally racing again. The only problem the tech inspector told us at the prescott rally was that our sill bar needed to be lower...

Well that is great...do note that Bilstein and Southwest RallyCup Series is working on something that will really intice off-roaders to use their pre-runners in 2010. So be prepared for an update on that soon on www.southwestrallyseries.com

I heard that you ran that race and kudos for you...I am the series director for Southwest RallyCup and I am trying to work on getting more off-road guys to use their pre-runners for the SWRC...by probably doing a special contingecy for pre-runners, etc. Which means a special SWRC class called the Bilstein Class...I will have more of that update as I said before in a couple of weeks.

Plus we have over $400.00's from the SWRC going for the 1st and 2nd place winners to be divided up depending upon how many classes are represented....

Now back on topic. I would suggest that you go to the www.rallyamerica.com website
go to downloads section on the righthand side of the website and you can download the rulebook...does not cost you a thing on that part. Go to article 5 and article 6 that deals with Required Safety Equipment and Scrutineering. Read that portion....
and pay particular attention to Article 5.5 "Rollover Protection" which safety cages homologated by the FIA or a recognized ASN.

But go to the last few portions of the PDF version on the website and it is Apendix 1
Roll Cage Standards for exisiting construction which are for existing vehicles only...
this will tell you about sill bars under 6.f which does say..."These bars shall be located as close to the horizontal and as low as practical, and in no case be more then 6" above or 4" Inward from the lower door sills....

If your sill bars are more then that... then I suggest you e-mail Mike Hurst who is the National/Regional Tech Director and Competition Director of Rally America(he use to be crew chief for Dave Pearson) and tell him about your past racing resume to determine if you can run in Group 5 which is the unrestricted rally license and if not then Production, Group 2 or Open Light would be the choice and any questions you have about your truck and what they said on your logbook. He will then direct you if you need or do not have to do anything to your pre-runner and the class you compete in...which all of the classes are very competive.

Mike will work with you and get you steered in the right direction.

Also cc'd along with me when you contact him since I will be the event steward for RA at Seed 9. Tell him you just did a NASA event.

His e-mail address is mikehurst@rally-america.com and mine is marymountdenise@ aol.com

We have loads of fun at Seed 9 and relax at the Pioneer Saloon which is the tradition for years.

We love to have you and other off-road guys at Seed 9 and then to run Desert Storm next year in March.

Do note Mike is up at LSPR this weekend the last national event of the series for the season and then he will be back into the office next week to answer all e-mails or give a phone call and leave a message on his voice mail..he will answer that way as well.

Keep me posted!!!

Denise McMahon
Rally America Steward for Seed 9 Rally
Series Director- Southwest RallyCup Series
Chairperson - Desert Storm and Plan B Rally

 

[rallyorg]

Thanks Denise, I would be there as Media. Do you have a link to a credential application? What time will the last night stage start?

Hi Kartman!!!

What we can do is if you send me your e-mail address and I will get over the media application to you and we can make arrangements for you to get your credentials via e-mail...my e-mail address is marymountdenise@aol.com.

All information will be up within the next two weeks...The event schedule for FCO will be up by sometime of the October 19th week.


We love to have you and if you get their early enough we can get you to a great spot for pictures. There is a triple caution hairpin turn in the road and they go both ways. Which this stage would be the last night stage of the event. Or if you want to be at start we can arrange that...



Denise McMahon
Rally America Steward for Seed 9 Rally
Series Director - Southwest RallyCup Series
Chairperson - Desert Storm and Plan B Rally

 

[onebuilder]

Will we ever see a Rally Race in Parker Arizona?

 

[rallyorg]

Well the close as we can get is for Desert Storm....there will be loads of information to be coming up on that rally within a few short months. Located out of Blythe, Ca.

We did have a Quartzite Rally at one time and used roads near Parker, Ca and roads just right off where you have Parker 450-500....BUT the BLM has found the dirt roads in La Paz county not legal so to them it is considered off road trails and not county roads. BUT La Paz County is working on making their paperwork correct and they have to do road surveys to comply to the NEPA act.

We had a meeting with the BLM about allowing us to run under them as BLM roads but they will only consider the Parkers races as the only activity at that time to be permitted.

There are some really nice dirt roads in that area and Quartzite Rally went over really exciting when we had it ....so many want it to come back....so we hope in the future to be able to....

Thank you for asking...

 

[trent06]

Well the close as we can get is for Desert Storm....there will be loads of information to be coming up on that rally within a few short months. Located out of Blythe, Ca.

We did have a Quartzite Rally at one time and used roads near Parker, Ca and roads just right off where you have Parker 450-500....BUT the BLM has found the dirt roads in La Paz county not legal so to them it is considered off road trails and not county roads. BUT La Paz County is working on making their paperwork correct and they have to do road surveys to comply to the NEPA act.

We had a meeting with the BLM about allowing us to run under them as BLM roads but they will only consider the Parkers races as the only activity at that time to be permitted.

There are some really nice dirt roads in that area and Quartzite Rally went over really exciting when we had it ....so many want it to come back....so we hope in the future to be able to....

Thank you for asking...

Denise,

I just sent you an email about the Seed 9 Rally, and I am no help in dealing with the BLM, but if some how you guys could manage to get a permit out of them for a rally race in the Parker area off of Shea Road, I would volunteer to take you guys out and show you some of the county roads, etc that I think would be ideal for a rally race, transits included etc. I am sure you guys already have an idea on the areas you would like to race at, but for expanding more stages etc.

Trent

 

[rallyorg]

Thank you Trent...great! What we need to find out from La Paz County Public Works is if the roads you are talking about are indeed legal since there have been county applications problems from 20 years ago...and BLM is calling it on them...
amazing...BUT La Paz County are working on making their dirt county roads legal again...but I have not talk to them for over 2 years to see where they are on those roads...

I use Yuma Proven Grounds roads for Desert Storm and La Paz county specifically say that is their legal county roads. We use Riverside County roads....

But yes if sometime soon we can look at the roads you are talking about would be great....

 

[rallyorg]

Bill Holmes has entered to solidfy his overall winnings in the Southwest RallyCup series and to win in the CRS series. So
there will be a great competition going on in Jean, Nevada....

If you can volunteer to hellp out then go on to www.rallydata.com and click on to Seed 9 Rally.

We still need control marshals and some licensed ham operators.

 

[Lance T]

Well that is great...do note that Bilstein and Southwest RallyCup Series is working on something that will really intice off-roaders to use their pre-runners in 2010. So be prepared for an update on that soon on www.southwestrallyseries.com...

Cool!

 

[rallyorg]

Will we ever see a Rally Race in Parker Arizona?

Check out Desert Storm from 2009 from this video and this should get you in the mood for 2010 which we have loads of exciting things to be happening....


http://grandviewphotographyaz.com/video/2009/desert-storm-rally-2009-video

 

[C.J. Hutchins]

Well that is great...do note that Bilstein and Southwest RallyCup Series is working on something that will really intice off-roaders to use their pre-runners in 2010. So be prepared for an update on that soon on www.southwestrallyseries.com

Sweet! Will this include non-steel cab vehicles like four seat buggies? I would love to come rally my 4-seater.

 

[rallyorg]

Sweet! Will this include non-steel cab vehicles like four seat buggies? I would love to come rally my 4-seater.

Sorry...you need to be within spec to drive a legal vehicle on regular roads..like on a freeway or county road....check out the rules under...www.rally-america.com
under downloads and you can download the rulebook....

Now you can run that type in a rallycross which Southwest RallyCup Series is going
to bring on rallycrosses in 2010 from the San Diego area.

 

[rallyorg]

Everything is ready and thank you to the volunteers that are coming out...I like to thank the Best in the Desert event for making a announcement to the competitors for their event to tell them not to test on the other side of the I-15 in Jean. We really do appreciate it....good luck to the off-roaders for that event.

Our next announcement will be Desert Storm which will be in March in Blythe, Ca. What Southwest RallyCup Series will be doing in 2010.