jon coleman
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Should SCORE start TT Spec in front of Class 1 now?
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DG_BTI
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he put himself on restriction. Don't worry, he'll be back. I'm probably putting myself at risk by even mentioning it...
nimrod
KOOK!
I have no skin in the game but to actually affect change the bike guys would need to band together and not race unless they got whatever gap they wanted to feel safe. OR if the TT guys refused to leave the line. Why should I care more than the bike guys or the TT guys? I guess I could send score an email saying I won’t follow the races on the tracker anymore in boycott.
pdailey
Pug Dad
Easiest solution to me is start the sportsman bikes behind all the 4 wheel classes.
As far as Spec TT vs Class 1, its fine the way it is. Qualifying them all together so the fastest are up front would be the best solution but that will never happen. If Spec TTs want to start in front of Class 1s, then put a bigger motor in your truck and enter Trophy Truck lol
nimrod
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Qualifying is almost always a horses for courses thing anyways and not always a true reflection of who will be fast over the entirety of the actual course.
pdailey
Pug Dad
maybe a few anomalies (RG) but the fastest guys always rise to the top.
Tom_Willis
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Or, on the shortest course of the season, (San Felipe) why not run motos and 4wheel vehicles on separate days??
Bricoop
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If lighter vehicle roll cages are built to heavy vehicle specs, would be people be more open to mixing classes? Not quite the right thread for this, but close enough by RDC standards.
dan200
wholesome chickens
make a less powerful car slower by making it heavier and then mix it in with faster ones who have better power to weight?
Tom_Willis
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It's called "Diversity!", and we're supposed to celebrate it. Try and keep up.
Bricoop
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Some class 10s and Turbo UTVs consistently finish in front of Some Spec TTs every race.
Make sure qualifying allows the HP to shine or use previous results.
All three classes should start in accordance with their qualifying times. Ordering the start by classes never made sense to me.
When I do road racing, we have mixed class races. The start order is set by qualifying time.
When I do road racing, we have mixed class races. The start order is set by qualifying time.
Curious about this.
Robin Hood
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Until class 1 has portals in the rear they are going to get slower overall relative to the field. Top speed may matter, but it isn't as relative as speed and control through the bumps.
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There’s top running class ones finished time and still beats 6100.
Dustino81
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Sportsman, pro teams having issues , and Ironman racers . From a bike guys standpoint it’s super sketchy getting caught by them during the day , night not as bad . I really wish SCORE would require all 4 wheel vehicles to run some sort of daytime light, like the handlebars. Plus we need a much larger gap . Trucks are getting faster , courses are much rougher and bikes are getting slower on the rougher courses .
jon coleman
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its time to seperate the 2& 4 wheel classes period, its just simple math, top tt+ a moto guy having a bad day = not good
Frye Racing
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Is SNORE the only organization when they do qualify, BAP & RATR, to mix TT, C1 and spec by their times? Doesn’t make sense others don’t.
Their rational is if someone crashes during qualifying they don’t want them behind slower classes…this would only effect a few.
But it is ok if faster C1s have to drive through a handful of slower TTs or a bunch of faster spec trucks have to drive through all the C1s…this current scenario seems way less safe. Especially if you understand physics. And this current way effects a lot more racers. As well as the outcome. Meaning if certain guys got a better starting position they would have even better times.
Just have to look at the data and follow the The Science™™…lol
Case in point is Bean at the SS300 I am sure he had to deal with a lot of dust of slower cars and still came in 4th overall. I doubt the other top 3 had any dust. Kyle Jergensen is another good example when he was running 6100.
Just seems like good a question to seriously consider for; Safety, Liability, Fairness and Evolution.
Their rational is if someone crashes during qualifying they don’t want them behind slower classes…this would only effect a few.
But it is ok if faster C1s have to drive through a handful of slower TTs or a bunch of faster spec trucks have to drive through all the C1s…this current scenario seems way less safe. Especially if you understand physics. And this current way effects a lot more racers. As well as the outcome. Meaning if certain guys got a better starting position they would have even better times.
Just have to look at the data and follow the The Science™™…lol
Case in point is Bean at the SS300 I am sure he had to deal with a lot of dust of slower cars and still came in 4th overall. I doubt the other top 3 had any dust. Kyle Jergensen is another good example when he was running 6100.
Just seems like good a question to seriously consider for; Safety, Liability, Fairness and Evolution.
Chainguide
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Bike and cars running on separate days? Never gonna happen at SCORE.
