Texas, utah, colorado guys need input

[Bro_Gill]

Thank you guys for all the replies. My wife and I have read them all and they all helped. Someone talked about private lands in texas and the fact they aren't really desert like. I just got done spending many years building my 1450 desert truck and have no thoughts of selling to join a different type of racing.

Cost of living is a big reason for the move.

I have though hard about St. George and Cedar City. I guess looking at the map St george is basically like living in Arizona since its at the base of the climb towards Cedar City right? I can see how there would be ample places to drive there. How is the cost of living? I can look it up but real life cost of living from someone that lives there is better.

Cedar City would offer more seasons, but do you have to drive all the way back to St George area to get places to drive a desert truck? Whats the cost of living there compared to St George?

We would like to be close to a body of water. Powell is amazing but a drive from both Utah towns mentioned.

You can be somewhere between Cedar City and St. George and still have those 4 seasons. Places like Kanaraville aren't that far out of either and still within an easy drive of desert. As I said- with Sand Hollow between St. George and Hurricane, you have a body of water you can ski on and play on that literally is right next to some rock crawling and open desert all the way into Arizona. Cost of living is definitely cheaper than just about all of Southern California.

Another place to look is northern Arizona like Kingman or if you want to push distance a little bit, Prescott/Chino Valley for 4 seasons. Drive to the desert is a little longer, but you can get into dirt out your front door and drive to desert in your desert vehicle using public streets! Prescott proper is a little more expensive compared to the out lying areas, but it is a cool place. Kingman offers some cooler weather and a little bit of winter compared to Bullhead/Laughlin, but is still close to race venues in Laughlin, Vegas, Parker, and Barstow/Lucerne. Cost of living is lower than California and you can still get to the LA basin in half a day if you need to. I still live in California, but retired last year and am waiting for my wife to do the same and we will be moving primary residence out of California. Been doing the research for a few years now. That's why I have it to offer for someone in the same boat.

 

[desertspeed]

Thank you guys for all the replies. My wife and I have read them all and they all helped. Someone talked about private lands in texas and the fact they aren't really desert like. I just got done spending many years building my 1450 desert truck and have no thoughts of selling to join a different type of racing.

Cost of living is a big reason for the move.

I have though hard about St. George and Cedar City. I guess looking at the map St george is basically like living in Arizona since its at the base of the climb towards Cedar City right? I can see how there would be ample places to drive there. How is the cost of living? I can look it up but real life cost of living from someone that lives there is better.

Cedar City would offer more seasons, but do you have to drive all the way back to St George area to get places to drive a desert truck? Whats the cost of living there compared to St George?

We would like to be close to a body of water. Powell is amazing but a drive from both Utah towns mentioned.

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[Goober]

Big question is work, southern Utah is nice but limited on jobs.

 

[firedog]

Depends on what you like. For me St. George is too busy, too many people, too much traffic ( I know you So Cal peps are gonna hate on me for this) but I live in CO in a town of 5,000 and that is what i love about it! I love taking my dirt bike to Hurricane and riding sand hollow but only in the spring/fall, too hot in the summer!!! Bakersfield is the last place I would want to live, grew up on the central coast and understand why you want to leave, I would too! I did and moved to CO! I think UT would suit you best, just gotta figure out where. Go visit the places mentioned. I would throw Moab into the mix, small town, off road friendly.

 

[MADMEDIA]

Start a off-road race wherever you live! None of the big races started out as big races. We have a lot of room to race off-road in America!

 

[Goober]

Depends on what you like. For me St. George is too busy, too many people, too much traffic ( I know you So Cal peps are gonna hate on me for this) but I live in CO in a town of 5,000 and that is what i love about it! I love taking my dirt bike to Hurricane and riding sand hollow but only in the spring/fall, too hot in the summer!!! Bakersfield is the last place I would want to live, grew up on the central coast and understand why you want to leave, I would too! I did and moved to CO! I think UT would suit you best, just gotta figure out where. Go visit the places mentioned. I would throw Moab into the mix, small town, off road friendly.

No one wants to leave the central coast, central valley yes but not coast.

 

[derekm41]

St. George Utah!!! Right on the border with Arizona. Miles of desert to run. Only 1 1/2 hours from vegas. 5 to 6 hours from so cal. Hit me up if any questions!!

 

[derekm41]

I live here in st george if you have any questions.

 

[firedog]

No one wants to leave the central coast, central valley yes but not coast.

I did!! 'eff Cali!!

 

[kyle_pc_75]

BOR was mentioned earlier. We just had a race at Knolls, UT yesterday, and race 3 to 4 times a year in and around Utah. Most of our races still allow open prerunning (shocker, I know), entry fees are $500 at the most, and we're friendly. Our biggest presence is on facebook at Bonneville OffRoad Racing. I've lived here for 20-ish years and can't imagine living anywhere else.

 

[snoreracer]

I have a place outside Cedar City and it's nice from March to November , gets cold in the winter but people are great. Lots of places to ride west of town . Hurricane is warmer and has lots of places to ride . St George is warmer, temperatures closer to Vegas and Barstow and has lots of places to ride south of town and Mesquite NV is 20 miles away with casinos and real beer. St George is starting to grow again so if you are in the building trades you can find a job. Wages will be about 85% of what you would make in Cal but the cost of living is much less.

 

[johndjmix]

Agree with Russ on that one. Going to Vegas is like going back to NY, not somthing I'm into.

Russ's town out in cali is about as perfect of a small town I've ever seen.

--John


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[Kgorman]

Just to reiterate what was said about TX. I live in Austin and it's awesome, but the desert racing scene is not yet a thing. It's all about private land. It would be awesome to have more race series for sure.

I fly in to NV to race

 

[Kgorman]

You got me looking around... I found this: Texas Desert Racing | Texas Desert Racing

 

[924motorsports]

I am blown away when I see people say that there is no Desert terrain. Here is a series thats trying to do it right in the deserts of West Texas!! TEJAS OFF ROAD RACING ASSOCIATION

 

[924motorsports]

These pics were taken at TORRA races.

 

[Bro_Gill]

I don't think anyone said there is no desert, but they were talking about the lack of and smallish size of the promoters and races there. Plus it is tough to get someone to allow you to race on their private land. Some folks do and TORRA is doing a great job trying to get it off the ground and growing, but it is still very grass roots. Nothing wrong with that, but the OP asked about racing opportunities. In Texas, the second largest state out there, they are slim.

 

[JDDurfey]

If you understand the history of Texas you will understand why there is very little public land.

Back when Texas was fighting for their independence from Mexico the country had no cash, however, there was land available. Texas received no help from the United States for the war. So everyone that volunteered for the militia was given land. Years later when a new capital building was going to be built the XIT ranch located in the panhandle was traded for the cost of the construction. It is a small ranch...only 200 miles long and 20 to 30 miles wide. It was more than 3 million acres. There is very little public land.

However, there are a few land owners that have been open to racing and the Beal family races BITD and the hold a few races a year on their ranch called Texana. It is a beautiful piece of land just south of Sweetwater, where I work.

TORRA and Texas Desert Racing put on some races, but they are nothing compared to what is available out west.

I love my country, The Republic of Texas, in fact it is the best in the world, but we Texans must go to elsewhere to get to the big races. I am just glad we don't have to use a passport yet to cross into the rest of the United States.

 

[Bro_Gill]

It's a good thing you have a passport though, cause I hear Austin is gonna start requiring them from everyone else from Texas.

 

[3 Amigos Racing]

Depends on what your day job is..and with the 1450 truck you want SNORE or MORE to race with.
You ruled out AZ but consider Kingman AZ or Flagstaff AZ. Both are pretty dang close to racing with SNORE easily, Plenty of off road trails , green camping, seasons and water stuff.