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The "Official" Dakar 2018 Thread

Chris Tobin

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The little Isuzu (Thailand drag team) 4 cylinder 3 liter diesel turbo engines ( have been zapped up to 700 hp with large turbo, fuel pumps, custom camshaft, non standard rods and pistons. The Japanese? cast block is obviously well made to handle that hp even for a short time.
http://www.trucktrend.com/cool-trucks/1406-isuzu-d-max-pro-stock-diesel-race-truck-team-thailand
The Ford diesel engine in the Peugeot would do 300 hp fairly easily unrestricted. Have a look at the chip kits for standard engines.

Is this vehicle a test concept for a Dakar vehicle? Trophy trucks don't usually run windows or have 100 gallon fuel tanks.
http://www.dieselarmy.com/features/car-features/sema-2016-robby-woods-million-dollar-diesel-trophy-truck/
Those are both amazing vehicles. The Thailand drag team is a great bunch of guys that basically built a truck in a month to meet the US standards and come over and race. That engine they are using is basically the same turbo diesel engine used in the Colorado and Canyon trucks here!!! I'd love to see Robby Gordon build a new version of the Hummbuggy with that engine and a Colorado body!!!

And what else can be said about RWs truck. It is AMAZING!!! But it is not a Dakar vehicle at all... I believe ASO limits the turbo diesel engines to 3.0L and it will be at least a 6.6L if not larger!!!

you people should get a life. no joking.

drag diesel? Is this a replacement for RG threads?
I don't think anyone is saying that a drag race engine should be used in Dakar, just showing how much guys are getting out of that little engine, (and they are doing it reliably not like top fuel teams that rebuild after each round) and showing that a Dakar race version of the engine could make good power and do well in the rally. No Joke!!! haha
 

mattj112

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Isuzu have competed in Dakar with 3.0L turbo diesel before which was standard engine. Having driver standard Isuzu pickup myself they are very reliable and has good amount of torque which for Dakar thats really what you need rather than large amount of horsepower.
 

Short Bus

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I'm excited to see what route they come up with. The article suggests the Peru will be the start of the rally. Maybe they had to promise Peru the festivities at the start to get them on board. Does that make Argentina the end again? That long haul from the good racing areas in the west of Argentina to the coast is a drag. What about Ecuador and Colombia? Those two countries have expressed interest, but if starting in Peru it doesn't really make sense to finish going north as you would likely have to circle around through areas they started in.
 

mrlentle

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Check out the Coronel brothers twitter feeds. They sound uber excited about the possibility of Peru. they're also keen for RG to be back next year too.
 

WillG

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Bet Mini and Toyota are chuffed as it gives them a chance of winning again (looks like the winging lobbying has won the day). It's also another reason for Peugeot to leave after 2018 and go back to endurance racing as they won't have anything left to prove.
 

mrlentle

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That would give RG one last chance to win with his buggy concept
Or would this only apply to official manufacture involvement
“The project is an FIA [cross-country] world championship, after several years as a 'world cup', to begin in 2018. The priority drivers will only be able to drive 4WD cars. The 2WD buggies will still be competing, although they will have to have the same engine [as 4WD]."

The “priority drivers” referred to by Fortin are a specially-designated category for leading entrants, who qualify either based on standout world championship results or are given the status by the FIA.

Won't affect RG.
 

MKR44

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@mrlentle , can you be specific , what's the difference between 'priority drivers' 'referred to'(no names listed) vs 'Elite' drivers specified by the ASO (T2P1 Technical “A.S.O. Elite” Drivers’ list ,Regulations: Dakar) ?
which would include Robby Gordon
 

Bull-dust

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Chicherit's Dakar options if representing Renault?

a)solo single seater 2wd buggy with diesel hybrid engine.
Hybrid Renault Megane Confirmed for 2017 with dCi Diesel Engine (mild hybrid) or new Koleos diesel engine

b)Renault Alaskan ute/ bakkie 4wd with Nissan V8 engine before the change to turbo petrol/ gasoline
2016 Renault Alaskan pick-up shown in Paris | Autocar

c) (buggy or 4wd) Renault used the old Isuzu v6 3 liter diesel engine - give it the Renault engine wizard treatment.
'The Renault P engine is an overhead camshaft Diesel V6 sourced from Isuzu and used in the Vel Satis sedan and Espace minivan:' D-MAX V6 common rail turbo

  • P9X: 2958 cc
 

mattj112

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@mrlentle , can you be specific , what's the difference between 'priority drivers' 'referred to'(no names listed) vs 'Elite' drivers specified by the ASO (T2P1 Technical “A.S.O. Elite” Drivers’ list ,Regulations: Dakar) ?
which would include Robby Gordon
The ASO takes the FIA priority drive list for FIA cross country rallies and add & remove drivers has fit with in FIA requirements. The FIA priorities drives base on the previous results on FIA events.The WRC has same system for priorities drives for which some driver are on both lists. Robby Gordon is listed on both because of performance on previous events he will not be affect by this possible ruling by FIA has he runs in petrol 2wd class car has long has he runs same engine has 4wd class cars.
 

SteveRacer

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Not sure the motivation for this. Wouldn't it be easier to just render the combinations they dont like uncompetitive with unfavorable rules? Could also give the gas engines a smaller restrictor and limit wheel travel on the 2 wheel drives. Even easier would be to make all layouts run at the same weight breaks. 2wd has a huge advantage in that department right now.
 
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