The Vision Thing

martininsocal

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m notary-the factories were gone for several reasons. nissan pulled out due to environmenatlists pressure. the others due to costs. the trucks were getting tore up every heat. the promoters were happy about that because fans like carnage. i have been to several short course venues(racing) and have seen cars and trucks taken out, totaled, or severely damaged(ask kyle taylor about glen helen) and nothing is done to the offending driver. even mickeys stoped using the rough driving committee.
there were crowds of 80-100 thousand at some of the big stadiums. but the gate is not where the factories make money, tv is. and pressure from the eco's started to make that a hard sell to factories who sell escort wagons and neons and other econo boxes to the tv watching public. hpoefully that pendulum is swinging back the other way.

frank h.-ventura, perris, glen helen. they all had short course races. i think you could run a tri state series (cal, nev, ar.) at fairgrounds and other venues and do fine. regional tv(fox west) and the support of the southwest racers would make it happen. it just hasn't been done right yet. i am not sure why ventura stopped, but i do know why perris did, too little support! and i really loved racing there. the pisser is it was affordable, didn't tear up the car, i paid 100 bucks to race and went home with 400 for the win, and it was a great facility. i wish it had worked out better for the promoters.

as for corr on the west coast, they have been out here before(glen helen and vegas) but many from the midwest wouldn't make the haul and many on the west coast no longer had short course cars. as for them saying they would love to race out here if someone donated the land...i bet they would! hell, if i had the land, i would start construction on a track today! i am hopeful that someday i can be in that position, but right now i am a working stiff with 2 growing boys(who want new bikes every year!) and a wife! she doesn't seem to want me to buy land in lucerne for some unkown reason! i would love to see a resurgence of shortcourse out here. i think it is just a few little details away. i think it could start next year given the right people. who knows, frank, ,aybe you could be one of them. martin

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Martin, yes, the factories did not need numbers of people at the stadiums. I thought they may have related that to the overall interest in truck racing. I thought it was really cool that all the factories were there and it had the "big name" drivers. We always recorded those races. I did not know about Nissan and the eco thing. Nissan supports the CORR series. I wonder why Chevy dropped their support.

The lack of support at Perris, was it car count or spectator count? A tri-state series sounds like a excellent idea. Any 1/2 mile track with a open infield. Even a full size truck will fit on that.

Martin, don't do it (buy the land and build a track). "Build it and they will come" takes a HUGE investment. I know you are just dreaming but, when you win the lotto... don't do it. (A little levity...)

Kreg, was hoping to get a answer from you on your spec truck. What class will it run in or will it be its own class? You still backing alot of race stuff around?
 

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mike-i think one of the reasons the shortcourse thing hasn't worked is 1-most of the folks who used to race shortcourse ahd gotten rid of their cars(sold to midwest and australian folks) because the sport had diminished on the west coast when trophy trucks started to be the big attraction in the desert. also, many of th etracks were gone(saddleback, 117, riverside) so a new home was hard to come by for a permanent series. by the time perris started, the cars were mostly desert folks who would show up if the race dates weren't too close to a desert event. this was very difficult because there are so many promoters doing desert out here. i know we always raced during the primm race at perris. it was both low car counts and spectators. it is too bad that there can't be some cooperation among the promoters to reduce the race dates. look at snore this upcoming year, 8 desert dates! i think snore is in a league of their own, non-profit, for the racers by the racers, etc...but that is gonna be tough for anyone who wants to run their series and any other race, period. it is hard on the wallet just thinking about it.

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Looking at the SNORE payback/entry fee, they could take out most of the promoters. Will all the PRO xxx guys get together and cut the promotorers series down to 2 or 3 races that are worth going to?

How about that Ford commercial? Nothing eco about that.
 
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