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Just wondering if anybody's had the need to swap the 3.0L engine for the 7MGTE or if you guys are getting enough out of the 3.0L. I know a few rock crawler guys have done the Supra swap for the extra horsepower but I haven't heard of too many desert racers doing it. Thanks for the feedback. Oh btw, first post, love the site etc....
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look at this <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.supracharged.com>http://www.supracharged.com</A> , as for in a dez truck though i don't know, cause the turbos wouldn't be legal to race. But I been thinking about just putting a 7MGT (no turbos) in my next project. 24 valve, twin cam straight six with a chip in the computer, why not?

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ah, forgot about the 'no turbo' rule... That would explain a lot. But like you said, I don't see any reason not to go for the regular Supra engine, especially if you were building a truck from the ground up.
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Actually i messed up, it's a 7MGE motor. I have no idea what kind of horse power you could get out of one, but the only problem they have is blowin head gaskets which is usually fixed with a metal head gasket. And thats considerably less probles than the 3.0's have. Does anybody know what kind of torque and horse power the non-turbos put out?

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Try: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.desertspeed.com/prerunners/4runnerdrivetrain.htm>http://www.desertspeed.com/prerunners/4runnerdrivetrain.htm</A>

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I think the 7MGE puts out 200hp without mods. I've heard you can get 500 out of the turbo engine with some modifications. I don't know about torque but it should be relatively low.
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The single turbo motors can put out 400 hp w/ exhaust, larger injectors, and a better turbo. The twin turbo motors (I believe they were only offered in the lexus' not the supras) can put out 900 (as proved at last years seam show on a REAR WHEEL dyno) with the same mods. Steve
 

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But again, the turbos are not legal in dez racing. So what kind of HP will a 7MGE with all the mods, but no tubos put out?

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Stock offerings listed here: <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/GasolineEngines.html#M-series>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/GasolineEngines.html#M-series</A>


5M-GE DOHC 2 82 2759* 170@5600 174@4400 83 85 8.8:1 JP Supra
5M-GE DOHC 2 83-86 2759 175@5600 177@4400 83 85 9.2:1 JP Supra
5M-GE DOHC 2 82 2759* 145@5000 170@4400 83 85 8.8:1
5M-GE DOHC 2 82 2759 145@5200 155@4800 3.27 3.35 8.8:1
5M-GE DOHC 2 83-85 2759 150@5200 159@4400 3.27 3.35 8.8:1
5M-GE DOHC 2 83-84 2759 143@5200 154@4400 83 85 US Cressida
5M-GE DOHC 2 85-88 2759 156@5200 165@4400 83 85 8.8:1 US Cressida
5M-GE DOHC 2 82 2759 145@5200 155@4400 83 85 8.8:1 US Supra
5M-GE DOHC 2 83 2759 150@5200 159@4400 83 85 8.8:1 US Supra
5M-GE DOHC 2 84-86 2759 161@5600 169@4400 83 85 9.2:1 US Supra
5M-GE DOHC 2 84-86 2759 170@5600 169@4600 83 85 9.2:1 FI Supra/Crown (no cat)
6M-GE DOHC 2 84-87 2954
6M-GEU DOHC 2 84-86 2954* 190@5600 192@4400 83 91 9.2:1
6M-GEU DOHC 2 86 2954 170@5600 170@4400 83 91 9.2:1
7M-GEU DOHC 4/50 86 2954 190@6000 179@4800 83 91 9.2:1 with catalysator
7M-GE DOHC 4/50 86 2954 204@6000 187@4800 83 91 9.2:1 EU Supra
7M-GE DOHC 4/50 86-92 2954 200@6000 185@4800 3.27 3.58 9.2:1
7M-GE DOHC 4/50 90 2954 190@5600 185@4400 83 91 9.8:1 US Cressida
7M-GE DOHC 4/50 90 2954 199@6000 188@3600 83 91 9.2:1 US Supra
7M-GE DOHC 4/50 90 2954 201@6000 188@4800 83 91 9.2:1 EU Supra
7M-GE DOHC 4/50 90 2954* 197@5600 196@4400 83 91 9.8:1 JP Cressida/MarkII/Chaser/Crown
7M-GTE DOHC 4/50 86-92 2954 230@5600 240@4000 3.27 3.58 8.4:1 (HKS: 5psi/0.35bar)
7M-GTE DOHC 4/50 90 2954 232@5600 254@3200 83 91 8.4:1 5psi/0.35bar US/EU
7M-GTE DOHC 4/50 90 2954* 236@5600 253@3200 83 91 8.4:1 5psi/0.35bar JP
7M-GTE DOHC 4/50 90 2954* 265@5600 264@4400 83 91 8.4:1 Evolution version (larger turbo)



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our shop Supra just did over a thousand at the rear wheels.

Rather than a 7mge get the 2jzge, from the non turbo supra or sc300. Its a better motor. Another idea is find a 2jzgte and run it NA. That motor is so stout, and the rod ratio can be decreased via stroking to compensate for decreased cyl pressures.

2jzgte's are overprices, but the 2jzge isnt too bad. Its also in a ton of vehicles, es300, sc300, supra non turbo is300 etc etc

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The awesome thing about the 7MGE is that it bolts straight up to a truck bell housing, do you know if the 2jzge will or where i can get some more info on it?

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i got a 2jz on the floor, i got a trans but its in my truck. Anyone have a trans they want to take measurements off of? Center to centers, and draw a little pic, ill let you know

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"do you know if the 2jzge will or where i can get some more info on it?"


check my link above for it, they may have info.

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