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<blockquote data-quote="MTPyle" data-source="post: 1926119" data-attributes="member: 52157"><p>I will add my opinion and it’s just that. I do not own or have raced a R4 but obviously being the only owner of the TL R8 I am interested and pay attention. Also two of my good friends have and race TL R4.</p><p></p><p>I think TL is a perfect step up for UTV classes. Once you get tired of breaking a UTV and changing belts a solid axle small format race truck like the TL is perfect. I believe TL cost less than UTV to race. Also UTV classes are so big and over crowded that it’s hard for a UTV racer to be successful.</p><p></p><p>So why is TL not successful? I would have to guess it’s management, not the truck or the format.</p><p></p><p>TL has not built a new chassis for years and I hear they had some on order but could not build them. They clearly struggle with building trucks as they still have not finished the new R8. It was started years ago before the new 6100 rules came out. So it’s already outdated. By the time it gets done 6100 will be racing spec Tesla electric engines. LOL</p><p></p><p>I have considered getting a TL for my youngest son to get some seat time. The turn off for me is having to get parts from TL. I get they need to keep it spec but I do not agree it all has to come from one supplier. I have heard they are long lead time for parts which would really mess up our program.</p><p></p><p>personally I don’t think they need to be wider, or open ECM. Just specify what stock engine package, trans, limit the type of shocks, and tire size that’s enough to keep it close and fair. I don’t think the body matters and the newer body that Brandon has is super cool.</p><p></p><p>If you want to have a tire sponsor and require a certain tire that’s fine but let people get that tire where they want. And maybe don’t pay contingency if they are on another tire. </p><p></p><p>I believe TL R4 could be great again and bigger than ever. Especially with the sport feeding in so many new racers from UTV. I would way way rather race a TL than a UTV, not even close.</p><p></p><p>Mike</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MTPyle, post: 1926119, member: 52157"] I will add my opinion and it’s just that. I do not own or have raced a R4 but obviously being the only owner of the TL R8 I am interested and pay attention. Also two of my good friends have and race TL R4. I think TL is a perfect step up for UTV classes. Once you get tired of breaking a UTV and changing belts a solid axle small format race truck like the TL is perfect. I believe TL cost less than UTV to race. Also UTV classes are so big and over crowded that it’s hard for a UTV racer to be successful. So why is TL not successful? I would have to guess it’s management, not the truck or the format. TL has not built a new chassis for years and I hear they had some on order but could not build them. They clearly struggle with building trucks as they still have not finished the new R8. It was started years ago before the new 6100 rules came out. So it’s already outdated. By the time it gets done 6100 will be racing spec Tesla electric engines. LOL I have considered getting a TL for my youngest son to get some seat time. The turn off for me is having to get parts from TL. I get they need to keep it spec but I do not agree it all has to come from one supplier. I have heard they are long lead time for parts which would really mess up our program. personally I don’t think they need to be wider, or open ECM. Just specify what stock engine package, trans, limit the type of shocks, and tire size that’s enough to keep it close and fair. I don’t think the body matters and the newer body that Brandon has is super cool. If you want to have a tire sponsor and require a certain tire that’s fine but let people get that tire where they want. And maybe don’t pay contingency if they are on another tire. I believe TL R4 could be great again and bigger than ever. Especially with the sport feeding in so many new racers from UTV. I would way way rather race a TL than a UTV, not even close. Mike [/QUOTE]
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