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Welders...? What would you buy

Robin Hood

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What would you buy?

I'm thinking about buying a new mig welder or possibly a multi-process. I currently have an old Miller 185 and I think I want to try something new. I was originally thinking I wanted to buy a Lincoln, specifically the 256 with the $500 rebate $1,999, but with so many options and newer technology, I'm not so sure that is the best choice. I have a tig welder so a multi-process is not necessary.
 

Exp24

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Always a fan of Miller welders, haven't tried any Lincoln products. All the shops I worked at used Miller. Depends on what level of welding looking to do and how much. Craigslist usually has used ones for the hobby shop enthusiast
 
I've personally owned a Lincoln Power Mig 256 (MIG) and Everlast PowerTig 200DV (TIG) and have had issues with neither. Sold the Lincoln purely to free up some cash, and am borrowing a Miller 212 in it's place. I also like the Miller - main differences are that the Lincoln had a digital readout that I really enjoyed, whereas this Miller doesn't. Next one I'm looking at is the ESAB Rebel EM 215IC (MIG only) - I want the dual voltage to use in the shop, and in the chase truck at races.

I'm not a professional. I do all my own fabrication and welding on my race vehicle/etc. I think that so long as there isn't a specific function that you're looking for that some manufacturers don't offer, you can't really go wrong with any of the mainstream names. Welders are like trucks - everyone will swear by their favourite name brand/colour even if it was the exact same product.
 

bullnerd

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I wasn't going to say anything until i saw HLP mention ESAB. I lost my mig in a garage fire and have been looking also.

The one I am interested in is the ESAB 215ic.

It comes with a Tweco gun and Victor flow meter, that seems pretty good to me.

Have seen nothing but good reviews on it.

Same as HLP, i'm just a hobbyist.

Interested in members here opinion on them.

Good luck Mr. Hood.

 

bullnerd

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I hate tweco guns.

The more complex the machines are, the more they cost to fix. I'm sticking with my old school stuff without any fancy crap on them.
Do you even weld anymore?

Ive seen some complaints about the miller guns.

What about ESAB in general? Any good?
 

partybarge_pilot

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Do you even weld anymore?

Actually, quite a bit.







At work.........

We have the new Lincoln MP210's. They are pretty impressive little machines. While they are great for being portable, I don't think I would want one at home. Lack of AC on the TIG and having to manually turn on the gas while TIGing would blow if you had to use it all the time.
 

Robin Hood

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Actually, quite a bit.







At work.........

We have the new Lincoln MP210's. They are pretty impressive little machines. While they are great for being portable, I don't think I would want one at home. Lack of AC on the TIG and having to manually turn on the gas while TIGing would blow if you had to use it all the time.
A sale price on the Lincoln MP210 is what got me looking again. But after a little research and discovering you can't keep both bottles connected like a Miller, I don't think I would ever use the Tig side of it. To much of a PITA switching everything over. I also agree about the manual gas switch. Another reason I would never use it.
 

isdtbower

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I suffered with a Miller 185 for Too Long. I bought the Miller 211 a couple years ago and what a difference. Nice to have dual voltage. 110 to weld at the neighbors house and very thin sheet metal. I had one trailer project that required a lot of power and time. It never gave up. Smaller wire rolls are OK with me because I think they stay fresher. The big rolls would last 10 years and always wondered when the 185 acted up. Esab was a consideration but been Miller. The 185 almost changed brands for me though. For a trailer project 15 years ago, I borrowed a HTP to finish it and was great. I should have ditched the 185 at that time. Auto helmet technology has improved. I can see out much better today. Lately a Lincoln. Hobbyist so need all the help I can get. TIG is Dynasty.
 

Robin Hood

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Having dual voltage is not a big deal to me, however it seems most the the smaller units come with it now days.

Does anyone have any experience with the Miller 255?

I think my short list at this point would be:
Miller 211
Esab 215ic, but would probably spend the extra money and get the 235IC
Miller 255

I thought my next welder would be a Lincoln, but after looking around they don't seem to have the best option. I thing the miller 255 would be a better option to the Lincoln 260.
 

isdtbower

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What Lincoln are you currently running?
Lincoln Helmet. I have been using an older Speedglas and could never see a good puddle. Me or the helmet???? New Lincoln was a game changer.

Most body shops run 110 volt for sheet metal work. I was not successful on 220 but thin was a piece of cake on 110. Why I bought the 211.
 

Robin Hood

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I find it interesting that 110 helps welding thin metal. You would think that you could just turn down the perimeters on a small 220 machine. I thought mine was a 185 but it is acutally a 180. I'm not sure if that is just an older model than the 185?
 

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DezerBlingMoto

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I have a Everlast TIG with a stick integrated into it which I don't use at all . I love that Everlast, best $800 I ever spent that was before the inflation . lol
 

Robin Hood

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I wasn't really clear in the title or my opening post, but I am looking for a mig welder not a tig. I already have a dedicated tig welder.

I'm currently researching pulse mig welders. My guess is in the nex 5years or so most machines will come with pulse.
 

axeman

Member
Just bought a miller pulse mig 110/240 volt with an extra torch and rollers for Ally after my Lincoln packed up and it was going to cost just 200 pounds less than the cost of the new miller to fix it
what an amazing piece of equipment been welding .9mm steel today with 1mm wire and its beautiful , welded 2mm thick tube last week and again looked great
can't recommend it enough
haven't tried it on ally yet
 

Robin Hood

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Just bought a miller pulse mig 110/240 volt with an extra torch and rollers for Ally after my Lincoln packed up and it was going to cost just 200 pounds less than the cost of the new miller to fix it
what an amazing piece of equipment been welding .9mm steel today with 1mm wire and its beautiful , welded 2mm thick tube last week and again looked great
can't recommend it enough
haven't tried it on ally yet
Which one did you buy? I haven't seen a 110/240 volt option with pulse.
 

blue dog

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I have a Miller 252 and a Lincoln 256 at work, I like the Miller better for some reason. In my garage at home I have a Hobart ironman 230, excellent machine and excellent bang for the buck, would recommend it too anyone on a budget that wants a 250 amp might machine.
At work I have a dynasty 200 and a syncrowave 250dx, the dynasty is a powerful little package and is a nice machine, but it has had to be repaired 3 times in 2 years. Something about these new fangled inverter machines and all there electronics. Remember that there are a ton of old transformer syncrowave machines that are out there that are ancient, and still plugging along without issue.
Sorry for the rant .
I know multi process machines are convenient, but I say buy separate dedicated machines in the end.
Remember, Hobart ironman 230. Tapped machine, but you will figure it out in no time, just can't dial it in as well as a digital machine, but not enough if a difference to worry about.
I think you can get the machine fir under $1500, and under 2k with a spool gun kit.
Cheers
 

chatter_splatter

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If you are looking for the best bang for your buck then a Millermatic 252 is the best way to go in my opinion. It doesn't have all the fancy (and mostly useless imo) settings and adjustments and it has really precise voltage and wire speed control. I've used a couple of these machines at different Fab shops for a combination of years with zero issues.

If you want a fancy machine that can do it all (or most of it) than the Millermatic 255 is a good way to go. Pretty spendy, but it can do short circuit and pulsed mig, as well as DC Tig (can't do AC Tig though so that sucks if you're doing any aluminum work)

If it were me I would buy a Millermatic 252 and an Everlast 255ext. About the same price as a Multiprocess Machine, but way more flexible.

Lincoln is a good brand, but their quality has gone downhill in recent years IMO. Friend of mine got a brand new 300 amp Lincoln mig welder and the drive motor overheats and he's had a couple other issues out of it. Also had a Lincoln Tig 200 blow the high freq board at work, so replaced it with a Miller Syncrowave 250 from like 1975 and it still works better.
 
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