Where are all the Robby fans today???

Dave_G

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Martin,
As for Robby, I can't blame him for trying to get a win any way he can. He's been screwed into the seat of several asphalt cars for years now and hasn't pulled off a win in any of them until the very last NASCAR race of last year. His career as a round de round driver is seriously under the microscope to perform and it's just not happening for him IMO. This happens to a lot of racers. And I'm sure the sponsors are noticing it too. I can fully understand why he's fighting any way he can to stay in the game.

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Dave

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Were just a buch of back seat racers when it comes to Nascar, We dont get the full story 100% of the time.(WERE NOT THERE) being a sofa racer myself for years now I have learned that you cant win a winston cup race with out friends no mater how good the car/driver is. Robby is a great driver but isnt making any friends, End of story. Jimmie has already learned this to some extent and its paying off so far.
 

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-it really looks good to sponsors when you make a fool out of yourself after the race is over.

Sponsors do not care on how well their car finishes as opposed to how much COVERAGE they recieve. Cingular couldn't ask for better image representation in nascar, for from this time on for the rest of the season, people will watch his car just because of what happened sunday, and his audience will continue to grow, and so will Cingulars sales.
 

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Ollie, I have to agree with you on this one. But as far as Robby goes, I like him, as an off road racer. In the “Big Show”, well lets just say he should stick to what he does best, Race-dezert!


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prerunner68

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Damn Ollie,
You sure did open a can of worms here.
We'll see how Robby does for the rest of the year.
BTW Ollie I'll get ya back for nerfin me at Sandblast!
Paybacks are coming!!!!!
 

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Yeah, this is a pretty good discussion.

Re: "Because he hit Jeff Gordon, the leader, and spun him out on the last lap." My question to you is: How many times has Rainbow Girl or other drivers done that very same thing on the last lap or close to it? Probably more than you think. Rubbin' is Racin'!

Bluedog is right about the coverage Cingular is getting. Remember this expression - "any exposure is good exposure". They use this expression in the television industry. Just look at Robert Downey Jr.





BRAAAAAAAAP!
 

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AND Woody Allen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fool gets a standing ovation at the Oscar Awards! With his daughter/wife with him!

How soon we all forget............
 

Waldo

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Robert Downey Jr. was out of the limelight for years and then gets busted for drugs...several times (bad exposure or publicity...my analogy for Robby and Cingular if you didn't get it) and then he gets hired on Ally McBeal and gets a golden globe or something like that...he even makes caddy jokes about it. But still got the publicity/exposure and lots of $!

BRAAAAAAAAP!
 

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BUt then didn't they fire him cause he went back to the drugs? So in your analogy, will Cingular get fed up with Gordan and all the negative publicity and drop him like a dress on prom night? (like mine
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Waldo

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You wore a dress on prom/porn night? J/K...I think the neg or pos press will be good for Cingular. There are several companies that tally the amount of air-time sponsor's emblems or stickers are aired on a single show. The report given to the sponsors is broken down to the total time (min/sec) that their emblems or stickers are shown on tv. They get bonus credit for any product that is mentioned verbally in an interview.

Many drivers go to through "interview training"...they need to plug their sponsors so their sponsors will make $. Some guys screw up (like Robby), crash, or break, but when interviewed they always say their car WAS running great and they thank their sponsors for the aforementioned reason!

BRAAAAAAAAP!
 

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There has been much discussion surrounding the antics of RG after Sunday's race. Some of the post's have some errors contained in them. Let's go back to the very first issue in chronological order.

RG was black flagged at the start of the race because he crossed the start line prior to the pole sitter. Not that this rule has anything to do with Jeff Gordon, but what kind of rule is that? Doesn't green mean go and if the outside pole sitter, the 10th car back, or even the 43rd car to start crosses the start line prior to the pole sitter, the pole sitter should've been in the gas harder? Besides, if you listen to what was said shortly there after, the three stooges mentioned that JG spoke with RG about this very issue at the driver's meeting. Mr. Jeff Gordon still has some lingering feelings from being bumped with more than 10 laps to go at New Hampshire. Jeff Gordon was unintentionally bumped at that race because it appeared that he checked up for the slower cars in front of him. RG should'nt be faulted because he was driving hard for his 1st Nascar win. Jeff Gordon took himself out of that race by bumping RG so hard that resulted in severe damage that cost him the chance at winning. RG even said that Jeff Gordon had the better car and if he wouldn't have wrecked his car by punting him that he still had a shot to win.

With regard to the Jr. incident: This had begun at the first part of the race. Fox had some in-car camera shots from the 31 that showed Jr. RG's rear bumper. I'm sure this went on for quite a few laps. Nascar isn't like our freeway system. If you have a car on your rear bumper you would kindly allow them to pass and move into the slow lane. If you show consideration in Nascar you should be driving the pace car during the race. RG did what any racer would do in those closing laps, driving hard until the checkered flags flies. Makes no difference if your on the lead lap or a lap down. Sterling Marlin was a down a lap and he was the third physical car on the track. Why isn't Jr complaining about Marlin being a lapped car racing with the leaders? RG was minding his own on the way back to the garage at the end of the race and Jr. decided he needed to let off some steam. He instigated the run in between RG and himself. Jr's penalty should've have been harsher than what RG was penalized.

If Nascar want's to clean up the post race festivities, than it needs to hand out fair punishment, regardless of who you are or what your name is.
 

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HAHAHAHHAHA, thats pretty funny. . . I meant like my analogy? Good laugh though. I agree with the good or bad publicity is good for the sponsor, either way you are seeing their name on TV more. My .02.

 

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Nascar may say they don't wnat stuff like this to happen, but folks pay to see these rivalries. With Sr. gone, Waltrip out, Irvan gone, and some of the others, the big name rivalries ON THE TRACK need to be developed. While many of the folks mentioned were best of friends off the track, they knew what fans wanted, what nascar needed, and what got tv time, good 'ol fashion racin'. This is as much a show as it is a race. no drama, lose some fans who otherwise wouldn't be interested.

as for punishment, I don't see folks clammering for real punishment on nerfing in the desert? what gives with that? and how many of you heard the quality response when asked about a wreck caused during a pass? " I don't what happened, but since I was doing the passing, it is my responsibility to do it safely..." imagine that! at the end of the race, everyone is racing to the finish line, whether you are 1st or 41st. robby pulls up to let jr. by and 21st rides jr's tail past. and everyone of you would be saying what a puss he was for given up the spot!

its the same argument for letting people by to get a lap back on a yellow. you lapped them, why should you have to do it again! should we expect the herbst to slow down so others can catch up and have a closer finish? and why do the announcer say a driver is stinking up the place when he starts to put the hurt on the rest of the field and pulls a huge lead? because its the show that gets them the money, tv time, and sponsorship.

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Sterling Marlin had a reason to race with the leaders, Robby did not. Did you notice how the 40 got out of the way on the restart and let the 41 by to race for the win. They are team mates and that was for the good of the team. After the 41 got past, sterling had every reason to "hold up traffic" from the 28 and the 8 because it would help his team mate concentrate of winning rather than having to race Rudd or Jr for second. Robby had no legitimate reason for racing Jr as hard as he did. It was his ego. I am not saying that it was wrong from a racing standpoint but it was wrong from a political standpoint. Like it or not, WC racing is a long season with 36 races. There will be times again in the future that Robby wants a little more racing room from Jr. or someone else. He is not likely to get it with the actions that he has displayed. What comes around goes around.


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I think that what happened on sunday was racing. There is not always going to be "clean" racing. You bump me, I'm gonna bump you. The things that I don't like to see are the drivers taking it off the track. When they come into the pits, and start swinging at each other, they need to grow up. I think that many people here realize that fighting really does nothing for you or others. Why should try to hurt yourself, when you can drive around an oval at almost 200mph and play bumper cars with a $750,000 automobile. If given the chance, I would be rubbing all the sheetmetal of that car. j/k These guys need to act like adult sometimes.

Pat

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"Nascar may say they don't wnat stuff like this to happen, but folks pay to see these rivalries. With Sr. gone, Waltrip out, Irvan gone, and some of the others, the big name rivalries ON THE TRACK need to be developed."

This sounds more like the WWF than racing. Good ol nastycar.

jason
 

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WWF and NASCAR, I thought they were the same thing.....

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Bottom line is who cares???? PIt Row was a joke. I think Robby should have started in Busch then work his way up.... but $$$$$$ talks.... PS>>>> All those idiot drivers in North Carolina don't like California kids anyway, so he's going to catch flack just like Jeff Gordon (another Californian), did when he started....
 
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