Who is the most accomplished off-road desert racer?

[Baja Bryan]

Would be cool to see a spread sheet on LR, Rob Mac, Ivan, just for desert racing at pro level. Maybe a points scale. LR has been racing 50 years so going to take some time to figure that out.
1st 5 pt
2nd 3 pt
3rd 1 pt-

 

[E.Hagle]

I vote for Vic Bruckman

 

[Tom_Willis]

"Even SCORE doesn't have the driver statistics listed.". Why am I not surprised?

 

[Crusty Shellback]

Would be cool to see a spread sheet on LR, Rob Mac, Ivan, just for desert racing at pro level. Maybe a points scale. LR has been racing 50 years so going to take some time to figure that out.
1st 5 pt
2nd 3 pt
3rd 1 pt-

Robs been racing for about 40 years as well.

 

[JDDurfey]

To truly put a list together you must first define the word "accomplished"

accomplished​

adjective

ac·com·plished | \ ə-ˈkäm-plisht , -ˈkəm- \

Definition of accomplished​

1a: proficient as the result of practice or training, an accomplished dancer also : skillfully done or produced an accomplished film
b: having many social accomplishments
2: established beyond doubt or dispute an accomplished fact


With the word defined, you can see that there is no possible way to pick just one. Anyone that is good in the sport is "accomplished" The list is endless in length!

Now, if we are debating who is the BEST DRIVER then that is a completely different discussion and there will be many many differing options on that because it is impossible to determine who is the best.

For me personally, I feel that anyone that has been able to genuinely make a living racing is "accomplished" I am a nobody in racing...you won't find my name in any record books and probably not on any SCORE entry or finisher lists because I was never the rider or record, but after completing more than a dozen SCORE races and helping win a championship some might consider me "accomplished", however, I don't think that about myself.

 

[Tom_Willis]

RobMac is the best currently active racer. No question. But, this sport is so unique and open to innovations, that racers who also build their own vehicles (Curt Leduc) or figured out How to race Better (Corky McMillin) are just as important. And ANYBODY who figures out early how to get sponsors to pay for your addiction (like RobMac)? That guy is killing it. Why do you think he's always smiling at the Start Line?

 

[Baja4Autism]

Honorable Mention: Dave 'The King' Hendrickson. Although Dave never made it into a TT or Class 1, he certainly has his share of wins in limited class cars in both the desert and short course. Him and his dad were part of the Big Blue M in the early years. He also banged doors with the best of the best over his forty plus years of racing and has given some of today's best unlimited class drivers their first chance in a car (Steele and Bean to name a couple).

 

[Jammminjay]

MS maybe, Lewis Hamilton?, yuck

Why Yuck? He is the winningest F1 driver in the history of the sport with the same amount of championships as MS. This year he is obviously struggling.

 

[Jammminjay]

Would be cool to see a spread sheet on LR, Rob Mac, Ivan, just for desert racing at pro level. Maybe a points scale. LR has been racing 50 years so going to take some time to figure that out.
1st 5 pt
2nd 3 pt
3rd 1 pt-

Who is going to do it ha. I might

 

[jon coleman]

Why Yuck? He is the winningest F1 driver in the history of the sport with the same amount of championships as MS. This year he is obviously struggling.

hmmm, with out going all purpley, he 'took a knee' because he was told to, Nigel Mansel woulda said 'piss off' to that particular communist front group that has allmost all major pro sports scared like little puppys, i hate Any pro sports figures with zero back bone& the only allegiance they have is to thier bank account.f l h

 

[Chris_Wilson]

Ivan Stewart interview from 2016 where he talks about who he thinks were the great drivers:

Where Are They Now? Ivan “Ironman” Stewart

“Ironman” Stewart reminisces about muggings, armed federales, and booby traps in Baja.

www.google.com

 

[Crusty Shellback]

No one has mentioned Mickey Thompson.
One of the originators of what we do today. Would we have ever got this far if it wasnt for him?

 

[Honda48X]

One very good write up on RG. I know lots of people think he’s cocky and arrogant but he has poured his life into off-road and promoting it.

 

[Baja Bryan]

Who is going to do it ha. I might

I would love to see real data. So hard to pick one but a spreadsheet might show a clear winner as far as wins at the pro level. No short course or amateur points just desert races. maybe easiest to track B500 and B1000. for the last 50 years.

 

[Klaus]

I would love to see real data. So hard to pick one but a spreadsheet might show a clear winner as far as wins at the pro level. No short course or amateur points just desert races. maybe easiest to track B500 and B1000. for the last 50 years.

We have some data under results so should be easy for the last say 20 years.

But even then people will still argue aside the data of wins. What defines "accomplished"?

Wins?
Miles raced?
Sponsored by others?
New friends made in racing?
Price winnings?
Race cars not destroyed?
Amount of social media followers?
Engagement from or with followers?

What is the metric of accomplishment?

 

[mgobaja]

We have some data under results so should be easy for the last say 20 years.

But even then people will still argue aside the data of wins. What defines "accomplished"?

Wins?
Miles raced?
Sponsored by others?
New friends made in racing?
Price winnings?
Race cars not destroyed?
Amount of social media followers?
Engagement from or with followers?

What is the metric of accomplishment?

Like with most anything, one can tailor the data to meet ones needs that best provides the desired result.

 

[BajaFand]

I would love to see real data. So hard to pick one but a spreadsheet might show a clear winner as far as wins at the pro level. No short course or amateur points just desert races. maybe easiest to track B500 and B1000. for the last 50 years.

We already did something like this and everyone was really mad at Fish afterwards.

 

[todds650r]

LR

 

[Baja Bryan]

We have some data under results so should be easy for the last say 20 years.

But even then people will still argue aside the data of wins. What defines "accomplished"?

Wins?
Miles raced?
Sponsored by others?
New friends made in racing?
Price winnings?
Race cars not destroyed?
Amount of social media followers?
Engagement from or with followers?

What is the metric of accomplishment?

We all race to win. Who has the most podium points of baja 500 and baja 1000 for the last 50 years? Win has more weight but 3rd is still somthing that should count. I think Bike points should count for LR. But curios what it looks like with no bike points too.

1st 5 pt
2nd 3 pt
3rd 1 pt

 

[Klaus]

We all race to win. Who has the most podium points of baja 500 and baja 1000 for the last 50 years? Win has more weight but 3rd is still somthing that should count. I think Bike points should count for LR. But curios what it looks like with no bike points too.

1st 5 pt
2nd 3 pt
3rd 1 pt

Good point and thats why I would race.
And the non-linear points spread supports that point.

But All?
Do you think ______ races to win races or win IG followers?