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Would you rather, Mint or ultra4 KOH?

Would you rather?

  • Mint 400

    Votes: 13 27.1%
  • Ultra4 KOH

    Votes: 35 72.9%

  • Total voters
    48

dezert_nerd

Well-Known Member
At what cost is this live coverage though? There is a currently an FAA investigation ongoing over a drone crashing into and almost taking a helicopter out of the sky at the event. I’m curious to see the outcome of this and how it affects the production next year.
What does that have to do with one's racing career? That issue is up to the promoters to solve, of which I'm sure will be resolved for next year.
 

LAZY-H

Large Member
I am obviously biased, but I dont think its really even close from a financial perspective. Not just from a purse perspective but the amount of media and support available for top U4 guys, regardless of class.

It is humbling to even be in the conversation.
2 week event Dave!
King of the Hammers presents KOM400 ?!
 

Rcamp99

Well-Known Member
What does that have to do with one's racing career? That issue is up to the promoters to solve, of which I'm sure will be resolved for next year.
Because it could possibly affect the live coverage. Which is one of the big points about the excitement around KOH.
 
I raced the Mint and honestly was not that impressed. First off it is a pain in the ass for the racers just from a scheduling standpoint. Tech/contingency it is not convenient at all. Then the day of qualifying is poorly planned out. Seeing as most of the racers stay at Stateline, having the drivers meeting back on Freemont the night before the race makes absolutely no sense at all. It would be much better to have the drivers meeting at Stateline somewhere. And the pitting situation is horrible. Tiny spots that can barely fit everything. The course for the mint is fun, with the exception of the rock quarry. And driving the race truck down Freemont is fun as well. I have not raced the KOH race but it looks like it is much more organized and far less of a hassle for the racers. Every BITD race that I have done has been a blast, but the Mint is all about making money and putting on a show for the spectators, and the racers are put on the back burner as far as consideration goes. Just my two cents
 

450grl

Well-Known Member
I raced the Mint and honestly was not that impressed. First off it is a pain in the ass for the racers just from a scheduling standpoint. Tech/contingency it is not convenient at all. Then the day of qualifying is poorly planned out. Seeing as most of the racers stay at Stateline, having the drivers meeting back on Freemont the night before the race makes absolutely no sense at all. It would be much better to have the drivers meeting at Stateline somewhere. And the pitting situation is horrible. Tiny spots that can barely fit everything. The course for the mint is fun, with the exception of the rock quarry. And driving the race truck down Freemont is fun as well. I have not raced the KOH race but it looks like it is much more organized and far less of a hassle for the racers. Every BITD race that I have done has been a blast, but the Mint is all about making money and putting on a show for the spectators, and the racers are put on the back burner as far as consideration goes. Just my two cents
Agreed. I raced the Mint once, and that was enough for me. I prefer more racing and far less of the rest of it.
 

66bronc

Member
I have attended the mint several times and ultra 4 several times. The mint has gone down hill and is a complete joke. Ultra 4 is always one the best events of the year. Dave cole does a hell of a job and thats why I elect him as president. Dave for 2020
 

Jimmy8

Well-Known Member
Would you rather? KOH.

Which gives a bigger boost to a career? I'd say the Baja 1000 would be the better comparison.

All that said, the Mint is a big deal. Winning it is definitely a resume highlight for sure. The media package there is very good and it delivers ROI to sponsors. Don't know any major financial sponsor of a desert racing program that would say "Skip the Mint." To me this is an apple to oranges comparison.

Let's make this really interesting...

What would you rather have on the resume, a KOH win, a Baja 1000 win, or a Crandon World Championship win on Labor Day Sunday?
 

JEFFRPM

Non Sugar Coated
My only problem moving the mint to Johnson valley would be no more Fremont street contingency/tech
That part is a family reunion seeing everybody in 1 place is great besides being in the middle of all the exhibitors & casinos being able to grab a drink or use the facility's yes it's slow as hell getting through it but putting up with the fresh smell of race gas & rowdy sounding motors is PRICELESS!
 

51rcr

Well-Known Member
Win KOH. global. great cross promo. bikes, utv, t1, rock crawlers and racers and all the 4x4 community. Hooks them all.
Mint great for the not so hard core desert crowd to go see and watch and access. Also great because of location and things like the parade get and give attention to people that have no idea. When race car parades go down the street people take pictures share and ask questions. they do the news the whole week. I think it helps it helps make it Vegas the towns race. But vegas reaches the globe also with visitors ect and ease of access. Daves video crew would step it up. We love the mint for everyone to go.
 

Dezertpilot

Well-Known Member
The Mint 400 all day. The M8nt 400 is a desert race, KOH is a rock crawling event with the T1 race basically thrown in.

I'm sure the KOH event is top notch and awesome, I am trying hard to attend in '21.

About 10 years ago I was helping a 7 open team and we won our class, it was a fantastic event and I loved everything surrounding the race. I bought tix to go this year but unfortunately work is in the way, I'll try again next year.

I'm a high speed desert race fan, definitely more than a slower speed rock crawling and desert race mixed together.

I cant even see why they are really even in the same sentence besides media coverage being rad between both of them.
 
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